Are You Blacklisted?

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Have perfect or good credit? Early or on-time payments? No evictions? You could still be denied residence at an apartment if you are a blacklisted tenant.

What is a blacklisted tenant?

A blacklisted tenant is one who is, for one reason or another, listed in a database that landlords share to weed out undesirable tenants. The landlords use this list to report issues with tenants including whether a tenant has complained a lot, had any disputes with landlords concerning damage to the premises, or if they have ever been evicted from failure to pay rent. This blacklist has been known to harm the chances of unsuspecting apartment seekers renting a respectable place. There is no field on this blacklist that indicates whether or not this information is factual “… Landlords just use these screening services as an easy way to reject a number of people. And they don’t want to spend the time to find out whether they’re properly rejecting them or not,” says David Pallack of Neighborhood Legal Services.

Who maintains tenant blacklists?

There are a number of tenant blacklist firms. Some of the largest are U.D. Registry, The Registry, RentCheck, and TeleCheck. According to a 1989 article from Whole Earth Review:

U.D. Registry, in Van Nuys, CA, has over 2 million tenant records on file, information gleaned from housing-court records and provided by irate landlords. For less than $15, UDR reports to any landlord any eviction proceedings, or statements from former landlords against a given tenant. The effect of UDR has been to blacklist tenants who attempt to exercise their rights; a lawsuit attacking UDR has been pending in California courts for more than two years.

UDR’s clients control 90 percent of the rental market in southern California, and the company performs over 250,000 searches per year, according to Harvey Saltz, the company’s owner. Saltz says he lets tenants place statements in their files explaining “their side” of the story, but many of UDR’s victims aren’t even aware of the company’s existence. Indeed, some of UDR’s most-publicized victims have been people who just happened to match “bad tenants” with similar-sounding names that were in UDR’s database.

The Registry, another tenant screening service, has a database of a million records for the Washington, D.C. area. Other services operate in Arizona, Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas and Washington, RentCheck, a division of TeleCheck, has files on renters across the country.

What if I have good credit?

Being blacklisted is different from having a poor credit score. Credit scores are based on your finances, debt repayment, and overall indebtedness and maintained by the “Big 3” credit bureaus: TransUnion, Equifax, and Experian. Tenant blacklist record data from court proceedings and from landlords and are maintained by smaller private companies such as U.D. Registry. While tenant screening blacklists also may use information from credit bureaus, they do not maintain the data (they just use the information provided by one of the Big 3). Tenant screening services do, however, maintain tenancy history, including a landlord’s reports regarding whether a tenant paid late and if the late payment resulted in an eviction. Even if you have good credit, there’s no guarantee that you are not blacklisted. According to The Daily Breeze, “For tenants, an eviction notice can carry the same weight as a bad credit rating.” If you have an eviction, chances are high that these companies know about it.

How do I know if I am one?

In addition to U.D. Registry, Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion sell information to landlords. Instead of relying on your landlord to report the eviction, these companies hire people to go to the courts and look up cases and put the information on the computer database. If an eviction action was started, it becomes a bad mark for the unwary tenant whether the case was dismissed or the tenant won. U.D. Registry charges a fee just to check into a prospective renter’s name. The fee is paid for through the rental application which they collect whether or not the renter is accepted at the property. Individuals must also pay a fee to check their personal rental credit. If you find yourself on the blacklist, you will find it very difficult to remove yourself or even find out who placed you on the list.

Help, I’m blacklisted! What do I do now?

According to UDR, “If you want to dispute the “completeness” or “accuracy” or your eviction/tenancy consumer file maintained by UDR, it must be done in writing.”

UDR Consumer Disputes
PO Box 9140
Van Nuys, CA 91409

According to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, UDR then has 30 days after receiving your request, and if they have not done everything the law requires them to do, then you may file suit against them. Intended to promote accuracy fairness, and the privacy of personal information assembled by Credit Reporting Agencies (CRAs), the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) helps regulate the use of personal information by private businesses. If you have been a victim of blacklists, you have a right to sue and earn a minimum of $10,000 if the information is false or misleading.

But before you sue, one final solution is to talk to the landlord who reported the information. Sometimes mistakes are made. Let’s say a landlord mistakenly sued you for eviction and later dropped the suit. This eviction suit is still a matter of public record and may be caught by the tenant screening companies who could then report the information to future landlords. Obtaining a letter from the original landlord explaining that the eviction suit was mistakenly filed and dropped would provide you with strong proof to counter the tenant screening service. If necessary, you could show this letter to prospective new landlords along with your letters of reference from previous landlords.

114 Responses to “Are You Blacklisted?”

  1. October 26, 2005 at 4:03 pm, Anonymous said:

    give the web sites to where we can download the info an read it for ourselfs.


  2. October 31, 2005 at 12:12 pm, Guest said:

    Here are the top 3 resources to use if you’re listed:

    UD Registry:
    News Article:
    call Tenant Screening Services: 1-800-388-2335

    I hope this helps!


  3. November 02, 2005 at 5:07 pm, Anonymous said:

    SafeRent and First Advantage have merged create one behemoth of a blacklisting company:

    FirstAdvantage Saferent


  4. November 22, 2005 at 9:04 pm, Anonymous said:

    The last three apartments we have lived in have gone condo. Our credit is bad due to medical expenses. We have never been one day late paying our rent. I wonder if we are on the list.


  5. February 01, 2006 at 11:28 am, Anonymous said:

    Do you happen to have The First American Registry’s email address or just address?

    My email address is [email protected]. I would appreciate any help with this since I cannot find it, but the landlord seems to be able to and not tell me how to.

    Thanks, Pat


  6. February 06, 2006 at 10:42 am, Anonymous said:

    Have you tried

    They use First Advantage SafeRent.


  7. April 24, 2006 at 7:07 pm, Guest said:

    How do you blacklist “landlords ??!!”

    I want to protect future tenants from “landlord abuse” in the rental property that I’m currently at and am “moving” away from.

    Can I file a report with the BBB on landlords?


  8. April 25, 2006 at 6:16 pm, Guest said:

    First American’s main website is On the COntact Us link it gave this information…

    Client Services
    Monday through Friday
    8:30 am – 8:00 pm (ET)
    11:30 am – 5:00 pm (ET)
    [email protected]

    Hope this helps!


  9. May 18, 2006 at 4:09 pm, Guest said:

    Most communities will work with you as long as the early termination fee has been paid and you were not charged for any damages to the apartment. Some also require that the debt be over a certain number of years old.
    Landlords understand that in certain instances (job transfers, marriages, etc.) you have no choice other than to break a lease.
    You might want to check with a company called BMSI. I know they will rent to you as long as the debt is paid in full and there are no damages involved. I believe it does have to be more than two years ago, though.


  10. June 26, 2006 at 1:48 am, Guest said:



  11. August 06, 2006 at 1:47 pm, Guest said:

    How are we supposed to find out if we are blacklisted without paying so much money?


  12. August 25, 2006 at 8:01 pm, Guest said:

    I admit that i did get evicted from my apartment and i owed money to the company who evicted me. I took me a year before i could pay the back fees but i have paid them. I was wondering that since i paid the cost will i be able to rent again.i have the papers stating that everything is paid in full.


  13. August 29, 2006 at 3:08 pm, Guest said:

    UD Registry was purchased by what is now First Advantage Saferent about 2 years ago. They maintain around a 35% market share.


  14. September 02, 2006 at 12:32 pm, Guest said:

    Check with your local city government and see if they have a program to help out with rent in an emergency situation.


  15. September 23, 2006 at 12:42 pm, Guest said:

    I am a property manager, and yes I would rent to you if you had proof that you paid your debt to the previous landlord. Everyone gets in financial trouble now and then, as long as you were responsible enough to follow up, no problem. Make sure you have a release of debt from the landlord that you owed.


  16. December 06, 2006 at 2:59 pm, Guest said:


    As a Landlord, I can say to you all, that you being blacklisted is no fault but your own. True, we all fall into financial difficulties here and there but it all comes down to responsibility… If more people payed attention to paying the most important bill than partying, and spending frivolously, we wouldnt have to be going through some of the problems we do now. If you cant pay your rent, get out..go stay with family…Dont expect the landlord to be your social service agent and put you up for free…The Landlord has bills to pay that you can not imagine….Be an adult…If you cant pay, You cant Stay…


    • October 02, 2016 at 3:58 pm, L. Bailey said:

      > what about the crummie landlords who don't fix a thing but want your payments on time. Why we have to wait to get things fix yet get 5 days notice when rent two days late. We have to 48hours for landlords.


    • October 04, 2016 at 9:20 am, Susan said:

      > You are a very mean and harsh person. People become disabled and fall on hard times and have no money, food or a place to go. Or, you get abused by tenants living around you and the manager does nothing to help you.. You all stick together and are horribly greedy. This can happen to anyone. I hope it happens to you. You are disgusting.


    • December 11, 2016 at 5:51 am, 009 said:

      > You may be a landlord but you have a lot to learn about dealing with people and the first you should concentrate on is condemning groups of persons who possibly have very different and at times valid reasons for their actions. Not all landlords have proper training in their field. Not all have prior experience. Some have no idea there are statutes that are meant to guide them through this process. Not all tenants on these blacklist deserve to be listed. There are many unscrupulous rental property owners and management companies that have untrained employees that add to these problems but the answer is not as simple as "if you find yourself on a rental blacklist it's your fault". I believe that adding a name to this list should require the person of that name be notified similar to the procedure of the fair credit reporting act so this can be properly addressed. I'm not sure what you expected after making the statement about being a landlord but based on what you've posted, you are part of the problem in your field of employment.


    • December 22, 2016 at 4:05 pm, Jem said:

      > am I at fault for being placed on a lease that I not only never lived but it's in a bother state all together?!? You have some nerve to be as judgemental and close minded. I will pray nobody screws your livelihood up. Stigmas begin with closed buddy for your opinion's really helpful..honest


  17. January 23, 2007 at 7:21 pm, Guest said:

    i just tried doing that and they still denied me even though i paid. they said i would be affected for the next 7 yrs.


  18. January 31, 2007 at 4:25 pm, Guest said:

    Landlords like him, worked their way up from the bottom and worked to build the “American Dream”. They can’t pay their bills if you don’t pay your rent and you don’t even know his financial status. Even if he is the richest person in the world, that doesn’t entitle you to have him pay your way in life. I have property with great tenants. As soon as they can’t pay the rent then I will evict them from the premises. Fortunately for me, not only do they pay on time, they are clean and neat. As a rental property owner, they are far and few between. No rent, GET OUT……sorry, move home and if you don’t take care of my property, you cost me when you move, so better that you move now.


  19. February 02, 2007 at 6:32 pm, Guest said:

    The landlords I know do not have a silver spoon in their mouth. In most cases, they worked hard for everything they have. The courts are not concerned about excuses. When you sign a contract, you are expected to perform. The same goes for the landlord. Most landlords have numerous expenses including mortgages on their properties. The mortgage company doesn’t care about excuses either. You talk about making 8 payments, well guess what, a mortgage has 360 payments.


  20. February 07, 2007 at 11:35 am, Guest said:

    Excellent point “Even if he is the richest person in the world, that doesn’t entitle you to have him pay your way in life”. That statement is soooooo true.
    General Motors has more money than I do. Just because they are “rich” does not entitle me (or anyone else) to a free car.


  21. February 07, 2007 at 11:50 am, Guest said:

    More than likely, depending on your state, the landlord gave you a pay or quit notice. If you don’t leave or pay by the date shown in the notice, the landlord has the right to file for eviction, as he did in your case.
    Safe Rent records show evictions that have been filed, not the outcome of a trial. Many landlords believe that a filing shows that the tenant will likely be a problem in some way.


  22. February 07, 2007 at 12:00 pm, Guest said:

    If you run into financial trouble, you need to talk with your landlord and move before the landlord files for eviction. Also you need to work out a payment plan. If you just leave or skip, the property manager will place your account for collection, or worse, file a lawsuit for unpaid rent. In either case, your credit will suffer. Most managers will work out a payment plan if you are sincere, honest and follow through with your promises. In no event should you expect anything for free.


  23. February 07, 2007 at 12:09 pm, Guest said:

    If you are not listed on the lease then you probably don’t have a right to be there. In all states (that I know), a person not listed on a lease can still be evicted. Even a “John Doe” can be evicted. If you are a defendant, then you are likely listed in the UD registry.


  24. February 07, 2007 at 12:20 pm, Guest said:

    I don’t know of any way to take care of this. When you sign a lease, you are responsible for the payments even if you move out and leave the other people behind. It is up to you to contact the landlord (each month) to find out if the payments are being made. While it is sad your roomate is crazy, it really doesn’t change anything as far as paying rent or evictions.


  25. February 07, 2007 at 12:38 pm, Guest said:

    If your landlord did something wrong or broke a law, then you should go to court and let the Judge take care of the landlord.


  26. February 08, 2007 at 9:38 am, Guest said:

    agree right on


  27. February 10, 2007 at 7:02 am, Guest said:

    Wow, if this apartment is such a horrible place, why did y’all move in? You might not have known about the wiring, but a big ol hole in the wall is kind of hard to miss. You really tried to call your landlord? I will go to a tenants house at 1am if they call and have money for me. Liens on possessions and lockout are illegal in Ohio and I would guess Florida as well. The best way to handle it is to deposit your rent with the local housing court and file a complaint on the lousy landlord. Let the court sort it out and disburse the money properly…. Oh, I forgot, you cannot afford rent. Is your landlord a landlord or the department of jobs and family services. Move to a place you can afford.

    Good luck


  28. February 10, 2007 at 8:25 pm, Guest said:

    in august of 2004 I signed a 9-month lease and read through it word for word. part of the lease indicated that i would get a credit of x amount of $$ eventhough that amount was more than was verbially agreed upon prior to my signing the lease I figured they knew the amount they put in and signed the lease anyways. a month goes by and I go to collect my credit (by means of a check actually) only to find it wasn’t for the amount specified in the lease. I ask to see a copy of the lease they had in their office just so I could show them the amount I was due (I had re-read my lease the day I went to the office to get the check so I knew exactly what it said). Lo and behold the leases didn’t match at all. Their copy of the lease indicated the lower amount and when I told them I’d just go run and get my lease to show them the person I was talking with got very nervous and went and got the head manager who proceeded to tell me that the amount in my lease was off and they were just giving me what I was owed

    I sat in their office for over an hour trying to get them to explain why they’d changed their copy of the lease and has attempted to tell me that they hadn’t. I told the manager to create a letter explaining that they had indeed changed the lease without my knowledge and had him sign and date that letter, which I kept. A week later I still wasn’t happy so I wrote them a 30-day notice and delivered it to them. In it I stated their breaking the lease as the reason for my leaving. Over the next 30 days I heard nothing from them and I moved out. I heard nothing from them until late 2005 when I was reviewing my credit history and found a collection on it from them in the amount that would have been paid through 9 months of the lease.

    aren’t landlords/management companies as responsible for living up to the terms of a lease as much as tenants are? I don’t really have the time to have this taken care of through an attorney, but just knowing that what I did didn’t break any laws is good enough for me.

    anyone know at all?


  29. February 11, 2007 at 2:55 pm, Guest said:

    i want to say something i had a landlord that would not fix a huge leaking hole in roof that was dripping into my electric stove she was a slum lord like most and wanted to half fix everything we moved out no money was owed to her at all she filed a eviction after we moved out and ofcourse we did not respond so we are now black listed i have three children and didnt need them electricuted so i will say this LANDLORDS ARE JUST AS BAD SOMETIMES AS TENANTS..YOU WANT GOOD TENANTS THEN FIX YOUR RENTALS…


  30. February 12, 2007 at 11:01 am, Guest said:

    You bring up several interesting points:

    You mention poverty and fair housing. People who truly are in poverty have several assistance plans available to them. The most well known is section 8. Under most of these programs, the credit report is not used to qualify a tenant.

    Discrimination has to do with race, color, religion, etc. It is not descrimination to refuse credit or housing on the ability to pay (or not to pay). It is unlikely the Supreme Court will agree with you. If they did, what do you think will happen to rent prices? I can tell you, prices will go up dramatically to cover the losses from people who don’t pay. How will higher rents help those in poverty?

    You incorrectly mention that landlords never had access to credit reports. Landlords always had access to credit reports under the law. ID theft is not caused by Landlords.

    You claim your proposed changes are to help people who live in poverty. How does your suggestion of higher security deposits help them?

    The “blacklist” is factual public legal information. The truth should be made available to everyone.


  31. February 13, 2007 at 8:09 am, Guest said:

    First I’m a little bit confused about the different leases. Does their copy of the lease have your signature on it? Does your copy of the lease have the manager’s signature on it?

    Second, an error in itself, does not cancel the lease. They may owe a credit only if such amount was agreed to in writing. Verbal agreements become difficult to enforce and courts will generally need more than just your say so.

    I think you should have consulted with an attorney to find out your rights. You mention the expense of an attorney’s services. But in reality, a consultation would have been far cheaper than moving and the resulting bad credit.


  32. March 07, 2007 at 5:00 pm, Guest said:

    You sound like an a—— landlord or a slumlord.


  33. March 14, 2007 at 8:13 am, Guest said:

    This is GREAT. Good credit has many advantages, as you have found out over the years. You can enjoy homeownership, low interest rates, great deals on car loans, lower insurance premiums, even greater employment opportunities….. The list goes on and on. Keep up the good work !

    The truth is, bad credit is very expensive in the long haul. The sad part is that those affected don’t even know it.


  34. March 14, 2007 at 8:29 am, Guest said:

    If there is a Judgment against you, you need to pay it. Not going to court was a big mistake because the Judge did not hear your side of the story. Also, if you would have gone, and the Landlord didn’t show, you probably could have asked for a dismissal. Depending on which State and other factors, a plaintiff may not be required to go, or may ask for a summary Judgment. I suspect this is what happened.

    Once a Judgment is entered and the time period for appeal has passed, there is nothing that can be done. You should probably talk to an attorney as Judgments do not go away until paid.


  35. March 15, 2007 at 8:17 am, Guest said:

    Your response implies that you think it’s OK not to pay rent. How many landlords would stay in the rental business if rent was optional? None, they would all sell their properties. Then there would be no places left to rent. Those who can’t buy would be homeless.

    It appears you don’t like landlords, but you would be living in the street if you couldn’t find one. Think about it.


  36. March 15, 2007 at 7:50 pm, Guest said:

    It makes no difference if the landlord is a jerk. Rent is still due. Wouldn’t it be nice not to pay people who you think are jerks. Let’s see, I think the electric company is jerky, so I won’t pay the bill. I think the car finance company will be jerky next month, so I guess I can skip a payment. Oh, the doctor was a jerk, that gives me a legal right not to pay him either.


  37. March 16, 2007 at 12:20 pm, Guest said:

    Section 8 is a joke. There are no time limits on section 8 so once you get on you can stay on forever. The waiting list is several years long and is often closed. There is so much fraud it’s stupid. I knew people when I was living in low income housing who were using section 8 for no good reason. Their daughter lived in the two bedroom apartment alone and they lived elsewhere under an illegal sublet. Section 8 pays like six hundred dollars a month for this. Their daughter collects SSI for her “disability”.

    Lanlords should be able to protect themselves. It’s their property it’s their right. However lanlords should be under more “supervision” and fined when they violate people rights. Many low income people pay their rent with money orders. Many lanlords take advantage of them not knowing any better and not having every single reciept ever. They make themselves unavailable to write rent reciepts and then say pay me rent you already paid or get out. If you are paid by the hour you can’t afford to miss several days of work to sue for 700 bucks so you leave and lose your deposit for “unpaid” rent. It’s a poor persons word against a sheisty property management company. Why don’t they punish these people?

    Blacklisting should be illegal. You can’t blacklist people against employment and you shouldn’t be able to do so against housing. To many people are wrongly evicted and too poor to do anything about it. If you want to know wether someone has been sued you go to the court house and find out yourself.


  38. March 17, 2007 at 9:46 pm, Guest said:

    There was not a judgment against me – when I presented my case and all that I had to back it up the Housing Authority made a change on my credit report – now it indicates the judgement was satisfied but they gave the date of my complaint as the date it was satisfied which was a year later – the only reason I found out that this existed on my report was because it showed up when I went to apply for a new apartment! There never was a judgment – there never was a court date!


  39. March 17, 2007 at 10:02 pm, Guest said:

    That’s because he is one!!


  40. March 19, 2007 at 7:54 am, Guest said:

    If you think you have a valid point, take it to court. Tell the Judge you’re not paying because the person is a jerk.

    I bet if your employer had a run of bad luck and couldn’t pay your wages, you would not work for free. More than likely you would be the first to complain. People like you think everyone owes them, but when it comes to paying your own way, any excuse will do. I’m sure your credit report shows your attitude.


  41. March 19, 2007 at 8:00 am, Guest said:

    He is right. A contract is a contract and those rents should be paid or the people should move. If you have real trouble see the social services for help.


  42. March 19, 2007 at 3:23 pm, Guest said:

    OK, don’t pay your bills. See if I care. The car finance companies love people like you. They will charge you a 28% interest rate or offer you a “lease” where you can’t determine how much you are paying in finance charges. Meanwhile, “the jerk” gets the 0% and 3% car loans.

    I’d rather be a jerk anyday, it’s cheaper.


  43. March 20, 2007 at 7:05 pm, Guest said:

    I agree section 8 has several serious issues.

    In regard to dishonest property managers, there are some out there. There may be other issues too, such as poor accounting. But this is not just limited to landlords. There are many major banks and other financial institutions that are corrupt and are unable to account for money properly. The best way to handle this is to never pay cash. Money orders can be a real hassle and time consuming to trace. Perhaps the best solution is a low cost checking account or a cashier’s check drawn on a local bank. This way proof of payment can be had quickly.
    Blacklisting and wrongful eviction probably in part have to do with the accounting issues mentioned. Proof of payment will go a long way in a courtroom. Tenants should protect themselves by always paying with a traceable instrument.


  44. March 23, 2007 at 9:39 am, Guest said:

    The blacklist IS NOT FACTUAL public legal information. It’s funny that you would publicize your ignorance. Maybe someday it will happen to you and then you may understand.


  45. March 25, 2007 at 11:09 am, Guest said:

    Aside from being fired suddenly, most financial problems can be seen coming weeks, sometime months, in advance. I can attest to the effectiveness of keeping in touch with the folks I owe money to. I have been able to ask for, and get, elimination of late and overlimit fees on my credit cards and bank accounts simply by keeping all these folks informed of my troubles. I have also foung that telling everyone what I’m doing, even week to week if I feel necessary, plus what I intend to do to get back on payment schedule is often enough to keep me in their good graces. In many conversations with CSR’s, I’ve discovered that they are authorized to be flexible with customers who try their best to either pay their bills or work out some arrangement, in addition to keeping the creditor informed. I was ignorant, once, and did what many people do, bobbed and wove my way to try to avoid bill collection. It didn’t work and when I discovered that and tried the alternative, life became far easier. Oh, and keeping a log book of debts and phone numbers, by the way, is essential. Taking note of who you call, when and a brief synopsis of the bill discussed helps jog everyone’s memory if it has to be discussed again. Plus, you can always ask that notes regarding the conversation be placed in your file as well, which helps later referral.
    Plan your life, don’t let someone do it for you; you won’t like the result, generally.


  46. April 02, 2007 at 8:47 am, Guest said:

    EVICTION FILINGS (unlawful detainers) ARE public information. UD registry, commonly known as the “black list”, uses information from the courts.
    Your attitude is not helping yourself or anyone else. If I said “it’s OK not to pay rent and no one should be able to find out”, you would probably approve.
    Perhaps you should consult with a private attorney for your legal troubles. What will you do if your attorney says something you don’t like?


  47. April 02, 2007 at 8:56 am, Guest said:

    I would check with the courthouse and see if there is a Judgment against you. If not, write a letter to the credit bureau disputing the existence of a Judgment. They will investigate and remove it from your files if it cannot be verified.
    Now, collection items are different, no Judgment is required for placement in credit files.


  48. April 20, 2007 at 2:47 pm, Guest said:

    I was blacklisted for a house my mother was evicted from when I wasn’t even living there. That’s thorough accuracy for ya.

    The landlord who evicted her had every legal right to do so. I could make excuses from here until Sunday about how harsh I felt he was considering the fact that my father had just died. But he was a jerk who paid the neighbors to break into the backyard and spy into the back window to see how clean the house was. He told my mother that she was a lazy b*tch who deserved to have her husband die. One day when I was visiting he just “popped” in to inspect the house to see if there were any dirty dishes in the sink. I stood up to him and told him exactly what I thought of him. Now I am blacklisted.


  49. April 23, 2007 at 3:11 pm, Guest said:

    For whatever it’s worth,I feel to refuse a dwelling in low income housing based on poor credit is not right. While this may not fall under the guidelines of “discrimination” it certainly reeks of un-human treatment. I will also concede there may be some circumstances that show a clear dis-regard to pay ones bills,but there are many people who find themself un-able to pay bills because of medical &/or physical reasons that does not allow one to work. Those people above all need low income housing to be in a position to begin to clear up their credit issues. Section 8 is a help if you are able to wait the lengthy time to have your name come to the top. What is one to do in the meantime? Maybe sleep under a bridge? If a person has minor children they share custody of,the situation is made even more difficult. Yes, I am speaking of a real live persons current delima. A request for a hearing was offered & the proper paper work done & in a timely fashion. A date for a hearing was set,then on the day of,had to be re-schedueled. Two weeks so far & no word on a new date.


  50. April 29, 2007 at 4:17 pm, Guest said:

    You do not have to be living at the property to have an eviction suite filed against you. If you Signed the lease OR, are listed as an occupant, OR had access to the property, OR had personal possessions at the property, then an eviction can be filed.

    If you did not fall into any of those categories, you should have gone to court and explained the situation to the Judge.

    If people were breaking in to the yard (I assume forcible entry, as that is the definition of “breaking in”), you should have called the police.

    In eviction cases, The Judge is not concerned with name calling. The question at issue is purely money.

    Perhaps you will find a more suitable place in the future.


  51. April 30, 2007 at 3:47 pm, Guest said:

    There are many landlords exiting the rental business. I think this trend will continue. The big apartment management corporations, generally want nothing to do with tenants with substandard credit.

    You see lots of bad tenants complaining here. The fact is they face a very real possibility of being homeless in the future. Since many of these people don’t care about the future, they will probably get mad at the suggestion of paying the rent on time…The bottom line is, don’t take housing for granted.


  52. May 01, 2007 at 8:43 am, Guest said:

    We are also seeing that trend too. Just look on this board. Some people think they are entitled to housing despite their past history of not paying rent. With smaller landlords selling their properties and cashing out, that leaves the apartments to fill the void. Since demand for apartments is high and getting higher, they will only rent to those will good to excellent credit.

    The days of bad tenants hopscotching from one rental to another is coming to a close. And I agree, some of these people will be homeless or will have to move in with parents or relatives.


  53. May 05, 2007 at 10:03 am, Guest said:

    Every state has procedures for making a landlord repair items that are a threat to safety. The correct procedures of your state must be followed. You should contact legal aid, an attorney, or the city building department for assistance.

    In many states however, you are not entitled to repairs if you are delinquent in your rent. In such cases the law considers you illegally occupying the property, therefore you cannot claim your rights as a tenant.

    Sometimes a tenant will only complain about a problem when they are unable to pay. They use this as an excuse for not paying. The courts are wise to this illegal technique and will grant an eviction.


  54. May 22, 2007 at 7:24 pm, Guest said:

    I lived in an apartment and paid my rent on time every month for 8 years. The landlord sold the property and the new owners gave all the tenents notice that they had to move out. I moved into a new apartment and everything was fine for 8 months. Then I needed emergancy surgery for appedicitis. I had complications after surgery and could no longer work. The amount the state was willing to pay me for dissability was insufficient to pay my rent and still be able to eat not to mention covering the medical bills. I tried to work it out with my landlord. I told them I would move out immediatly and that they could keep my 2 months security. then i would only owe 2 monthes rent. I asked if i could pay the 2 monthes in half payments over 4 months that way the landlord would not lose any money. They laughed at me said they would not make paymet agreements took my security and took me to court where a payment “agreement” was set up. Now I am healthy and because of them i can not get an apartment with out a cosigner and my reputation is ruined. Good people with excellent payment histories get sick sometimes and these things should not affect them forever


  55. May 27, 2007 at 9:29 am, Guest said:

    I agree completely. Some people think they are “entitled” to housing with a history of not paying rent.

    I say, let them change the law. Then there will be no rentals available (owners will sell out). Their only option will be to buy a property or live with family/friends. Let them go tell the bank they are entitled to a mortgage despite their history of not paying their bills.

    The motive here is all to obvious. That person wants to get into a property, not pay the rent, and move to another property after they are evicted. They intend to repeat this process time and time again. This way they get discounted or free rent. I would say this person is of low character and expects a free ride.


  56. May 27, 2007 at 9:51 am, Guest said:

    The landlord’s attitude has nothing to do with anything.

    If you sign a contract and don’t pay, you will see the ugly side of personalities. It just doesn’t stop there. If you don’t make your car payment, it will be repoed. If you don’t pay the electric bill, it will be shut off. Well, the same thing goes for rent. If you don’t pay, you will be evicted. You cannot make or expect the landlord or anyone else to agree to your changes in the terms of a contract.

    You mention that you had a high paying job. Perhaps you should have purchased the proper medical and disability insurance. There are numerous policies that cover rent and other expenses during an illness. The cost is minimal.

    I have a strong suspicion we don’t have the full story.


  57. June 07, 2007 at 4:42 pm, Guest said:

    Where do I find this blacklist?? I have a tenant I need to put on it.


  58. June 29, 2007 at 6:16 pm, Guest said:

    I understand the whole blacklist and the feeling of unfairness, however, I am a landord and it is very difficult to foresee how a renter may or may not work out, a list such as this can certainly help weed out the bad renters.
    I just went through really “bad tenants” that i would never wish on anyone. They took advantage of the law to an extreme. No matter what I did for them they were still a burden to deal with. One of them even hurt another one and after going to the police with allegations of this and that nothing was done and I was still unable to evict the person with the fear of later on being sued!


  59. July 06, 2007 at 9:47 am, Guest said:

    I need to information, too. The people that are renting my home should not be permitted to erect a cardboard box in a trash dumpster!


  60. July 08, 2007 at 2:48 pm, Guest said:

    My fiancee and I signed a lease for 12 months in october he was suddenly fired. We informed the landlord and she said to pay as much as we could and just pay it off within the month. So we did this until February when I suddenly lost my job. we again informed the landlord and the same was said. then in april she took us to court to evict us. Well my fiancees asvab test was that day so we couldnt go. Now they suspended his license indefinately because we dont have the money to pay what can I do?


  61. July 14, 2007 at 4:16 pm, Guest said:

    i think some of the landlords are right on here all though people do have finacial problems and it is there responsability to pay for the contract you signed for. what is my problem to pay rent for months i dont live in someones rental my fault your to sorry to be able to get another tenat not my fault i dont agree with that but as said if you cant pay get out but forget getting paid for something im not occuping
    because and i know people do leave place destroyed my friend is a highly respected realestae agent were i live and i have seen the damage bad tentants can do i had to clean up the messes so i dont think its all fare but in some cases neccisary


  62. July 14, 2007 at 4:26 pm, Guest said:

    in florida it is illegal for your landlord to enter your home without proper notice you can sue him also he cannot lock you out that is also illegal


  63. August 29, 2007 at 1:17 am, Guest said:

    I had an apartment with my ex. We ran into some financial problems. We ended up spending the rent money on some doctor bills for me. I’m looking to get an apartment now, what is it that needs to be done


  64. October 07, 2007 at 4:44 pm, Guest said:

    What do you do if it’s your roommate who doesn’t do her part and you are joint tenants? I just moved half a country away and knew I wouldn’t be making much money so I had to go the roommate route. I found one but didn’t meet her until we were in the same apartment. Two months later, she hasn’t paid a cent, has all sorts of problems she never told me about until after we signed the lease, won’t sign me off the lease because I’ve been the one paying for everything and is a regular ole con really. If I stop paying her way, it’ll come back on my credit. If I just pay my half of the rent and she defaults and I ask the landlord to evict her – well – that means I get evicted too which comes back on me. I make my payments promptly and all my other bills and payments are paid on time or ahead of time.
    Don’t really know how to get out of this situation but there comes a time when you have to stand up for yourself and stop letting people use you. I’m at that point.


  65. November 01, 2007 at 5:12 pm, Guest said:

    Judgment on my credit report…
    I had a roommate whom I lived with for 1 year. I signed over the lease the day our lease would be up to another female she found online. I signed the form at the rental office, handed over my keys and gym gard. I was officially and in writing no longer a tenant at that apartment complex. Well 2 years and 3 months later, i just so happened to check my credit report for this month which I do every month and I saw something suspect. I had a PUBLIC RECORD “JUDGMENT” from the District Court by the apartment complex. Whats funny it didnt say individual account it said “JOINT ACCOUNT” so my name was still on the lease for 2 years. The amount filed for was $777. These chicks moved out in July the month it was filed and didnt pay everything, but thats besides the point. My name was on a lease for an apartment building I signed over 2 YEARS AGO. Im trying to buy a house and Im getting married next year so now I have a negative mark on my credit report. Oh and BTW the apartment company cant find the records as of today so Im still waiting to here from them. This is too stressful and I dont know what to do. I faxed a letter to the headquarters, managment and corporate. IF i dont hear anything by tomorrow at least Im taking it to small claims court. I dont know what else to do. Im the victim of fradulent reporting on my credit report but they dont seem to care. My old roomie had the nerve to say well is it on her report? I dont care i havent lived there and I dont have responsibility as to what they owe. I wish it was an easier way to get this taken off cause Im afraid it wont come off until 2014 as its stated on my report eventhough it doesnt belong to me. how fast can can the credit companies erase something from your report?


  66. November 04, 2007 at 1:19 am, Guest said:

    if your lease said you were owed a $$$ credit and it had the managers signiture on it, but the copy they had showed they only owed you $$ and had your signiture on it, and you have that letter then GO TO A LAWYER! you could probley get a decent settlement from them for 1) breaking the lease 2) putting a false collections on your credit, and 3) all the problems youve encountered because of this.

    yes they broke the lease first, so your in the clear…a mistake in a written contract is still a written contract! any judge will see it that way


  67. November 20, 2007 at 1:00 am, Anonymous said:

    You probably don’t need to do anything. If you feel compelled to take action start with getting a copy of your credit report to see if you still owe anyone money from debts during that time period. Pay them if you can.

    Most apartment communities utilize third party verification services such as SafeRent to qualify their applicants. These third party companies use a hightly advanced statistical program to rate your creditworthiness and your likelihood to pay your rent on time. This information is gathered from places like your credit report and it’s based on your entire history. If this was truly an isolated incident and can, you might not have a problem getting approved for a new apartment.

    David Kotowski
    Handle It! Marketing


  68. December 01, 2007 at 6:46 am, Guest said:

    The reason Landlords rent properties, is to make money. Its an investment, and like any other investment has its risks. But over time Real Estate is one of the BEST investments there is.

    Whilst, there are many good Landlords, there are many very very bad landlords.

    Learn your rights, use your rights against the Bad Landlords. They only get away with it, with those that allow it.

    But dont expect to be able to NOT pay your rent. Everyone must pay there bills, or suffer the consequences


  69. December 30, 2007 at 10:28 pm, Guest said:

    Did you ever receive a reply to your question? Please note that if you file a dispute to this item with the credit reporting service, the former landlord must respond within a certain amount of time to prove their claim. If they can’t do that then by law, it must be removed from your credit file. That’s the good news! Check with the credit reporting agency. If it’s on more than one report, dispute it on each and every one of them. Good luck!


  70. December 30, 2007 at 10:35 pm, Guest said:

    Dispute this item on your credit report and see if you can get it removed that way.


  71. January 21, 2008 at 9:27 am, Guest said:

    If the apartment rental agency claims they cannot find the paperwork you have a cause for action against them if they refuse to remove this from your credit record. Fact is once you notify them of a dispute they and the credit reporting agency(If you gave them notification of dispute) have 30 days to prove it is correct. If they do not they must remove it. (30 Days)If not you may take them to court and get money through your action. Unfortunantly it takes time. You need to really watch even the big three reporting agencies. Sometimes what they say and what they actually did seem to be two different things. Too many employees and not enough oversight.You are right in assuming they do not care. I recommend to everyone that they get their free yearly credit report from all three agencies each year. You may be surprised by how inaccurate they are. I once had a person with my same name in another part of the US getting their bad marks on my credit report. It too took time but it was taken off. They are not suppose to use name alone but they do and to this day it continues. Until our suppossed leadership in Washington puts some tougher standards in place we will see this practice continue. It should be a automatic fine of $10000.00 levied against the the offender. That is the way you get their attention. When you eat into profits they will follow the rules.


  72. February 07, 2008 at 10:23 pm, Guest said:

    Has anyone heard of this site – ? I hear it’s created by Landlords to communicate with each other about bad renters…


  73. February 11, 2008 at 9:04 pm, Guest said:

    I’ve heard of it. It’s a community board for Landlords. Some use it as a rant, but most are sticking to the facts. It’s not all bad – there are good tenants “posted” on there too. There’s also lots of ways to rebut a bad/dishonest posting, including contacting the poster directly and submitting an “Abuse report”.


  74. March 13, 2008 at 6:23 pm, Guest said:

    I am dealing with a landlord that is trying to make me pay for damages that happened after I moved out. I am seeing what the law is to find out how many days she has to send me the itemized list of charges. I can’t find it anywhere. I don’t think I should have to pay for this stuff because some of it is stupid. The state I am in is in Kentucky and if anyone knows the days for the itemized list it would be appreciated.


  75. March 29, 2008 at 1:42 pm, Guest said:

    OK. But where will you live without a landlord? In the street?


  76. April 09, 2008 at 12:46 pm, Guest said:

    good one.


  77. April 16, 2008 at 12:45 pm, Guest said:

    FIRST ADVANTAGE SAFERENT INC- Lists a dismissed eviction that should have never been filed because although I lost my job and was unable to pay, I moved out months before the foreclosure sale knowing I couldn’t keep the place. The mortgage originator and servicer both deny filing the eviction, and the law firm listed in the case details won’t return my calls.
    I just mailed off a reinvestigation form today to get it off. If it doesn’t get taken off I will sue. I lost the perfect apartment because of this- and I didn’t even know about it until they denied me.
    If you have been truly evicted I guess my advice would be to get a letter from the landlord in question proving you have completely paid off all debts and compensated them for any damaged property. Signed documentation from the landlord in question goes a long way and it shows you made it right.


  78. April 19, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Guest said:

    If your on Section 8 can the tenant break the lease agrrement and get a voucher on another house.


  79. May 13, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Guest said:

    I agree. Especially steven bolger. he evicted me when I was in jail. what a prick. He was mad because I wouldn’t sleep with him. He claims previous female tennants have accused him of rape. He said there was never any evidence so he didn’t get in trouble. He volunteered the information. was that supposed to be a threat?


  80. May 13, 2008 at 7:02 pm, Guest said:

    Try calling from a different number, have some one else call if they know your voice, or pretend you are calling because you need thier services to evict some one. when they call hammer them with your questions.


  81. May 14, 2008 at 11:24 am, Guest said:

    I’m in a sticky situation. I relocated to a State back in 2005 where I rented an apartment in a less than safe neighborhood. My landload was fully aware that I would be late with my rent by 15 days when I accepted a new job making more money. He told me I’d be responsible for the late fees and everything would be fine. Well, the bastard went to court anyway and filed a eviction. I received the court notice to appear in court AFTER I paid the rent owed…the landlord told me I didn’t need to show up for court and to not worry about it since I had paid everything in full. Well, needless to say he did. The judgement is now on my credit report and I’m having all types of troubles having it removed. What do I do? It is prohibiting me from renting elsewhere and I’m really an responsible tenant. SIGH!


  82. June 15, 2008 at 2:03 pm, Guest said:

    every year the apartments send me an my wife an letter letting us no that our lease is ending an that they would like for us to renew or lease an stay but we have decide to move we pay an credit fee at another apartment they said everything came back good but the apartment manager were we are living at now gave us a bad reveiw saying they will never rent to us again we play loud our radio loud an this is complanit from the down stairs people i told the manger many time to come over an list to the loud radio it was the people on the other side of the apartment they refuse to come down the other apartment did an screening on us an said no what can i do about this i want to take legal action if they donot fix this


  83. June 19, 2008 at 3:18 am, Guest said:

    Advice for tenants.

    BEFORE moving into an apartment make sure you have an emergency fund in place. You should have AT LEAST 6 months salary saved up in case something bad happens. The more savings, the better. You won’t need to worry about your credit going to hell or an eviction haunting you. This will give you plenty of time to get a job and insurance is also crazy to go without especially if you have kids. When you lived with family and/or friends you SHOULD have done this. It is very simple to do because the household members who all should have jobs or several jobs to share and pay bills. you have very little to pay and some families let you live with them for free. During this time SAVING should be you’re top priority. Don’t use this time to blow your entire paycheck every month on a bunch of nonsense that you don’t need. Also cutting back on all luxery items, no air conditioning, no eating out, no cable, no trips to best buy/toys r us, no shopping for new clothes just use what you have, shop at the dollar store, turn off the cellphones/internet etc…. you can save big money. Use this time to go on a diet and get healthy, killing 2 birds with one stone.

    I have dealt with several tenants who live paycheck to paycheck and had no insurance. They spend whatever they have and blow their income tax money as soon as they get that or any money they get period. It never occured to save the money for a rainy day. Then they tell me, “oh landlord you won’t be getting the rent for a while because I need to buy christmas presents or I decided to quit my job or I need money to buy a truck” or some other excuse. Why don’t people save during the year and plan for christmas presents or ask landlord if it’s acceptable to quit their job? This is not the landlords problem. RENT is first priority and I tell them not paying rent is unacceptable before other things. These other things can wait and rent is due on the due date. I ask them why they have money for a cell phone and other items that aren’t necessities and not for rent? This shuts them up real quick because the roof over their head should be TOP priority. I tell them that rent is due promptly and a 5 day notice will be given so they know you are serious and will evict promptly and not wait around to let them come up with the rent. You should put them on notice right when they move in because they know some landlords don’t want to go to court because it’s a hassle and costs money. Let them know right when they move in you will evict promptly and aren’t afraid of eviction court. The laws are in tenants favor so action needs to be taken because it takes a long process to evict. I will not be chasing people down for the money owed because it’s too hard to collect and the longer you wait the more money you will be out and it’s impossible to collect these days. Many of these people are judgement proof and don’t own anything. It’s very hard to collect,just try it sometime. This is a business and landlords rely on their rental income to pay bills and feed kids. Imagine if you’re employer said you won’t be getting paid because they don’t feel like paying. Most landlords would rather have their property empty than deal with the headache tenants that will cost them more money than it would if it were left empty.

    Previous tenants lived with family, made 50-70 grand a year and saved no money the entire time and took advantage of family until their own family gets fed up. I am just shocked at the people living paycheck to paycheck and don’t have money for rent. One guy was a trucker and made 80,000. many people on social security and public aid could find work or do things to make money if they tried to tackle their debt or start paying their debt even 20 bucks a week from their social security check to make any attempt to get rid of debt. many are overweight, have cell phones, internet and cable. Instead of tackling their debt even 20 bucks a month by using the money from these non essentials they know they are judgement proof so they don’t bother at all. they have no plans to and yet complain.


  84. June 19, 2008 at 12:26 pm, Guest said:

    1) I have yet to see scientific evidence that this “models” on which the credit system reports scores is true. I have never seen ONE CONTROL study showing that this models are accurate. Considering how many variables have to be consider, I doubt they are.

    2) If you rent, you accept the risk. This system did not exist years ago (before the internet), yet people seemed to make money out of rental properties.

    3) The only reason this screening services exist is because they are marketed to weak-minded, quick-to-discriminate, individuals and management companies WHO DREAM of a perfect tenant, just waiting for them to lease the property, outside of the gates of the screening gates of SafeRent, OnSite, etc.

    4) In many other countries, they check your rental history but not your credit.

    5) You have a deposit and many times, a one month advance in rent, that enables you to cover costs of eviction, and if the market is hot, you can even make money by bringing in a new tenant into the property.

    Credit scoring is not a science. Its a market ploy.


  85. July 10, 2008 at 11:34 am, Guest said:

    Can you remove there property from the house if they have not paid rent for 2 months and you have given them notice to do so.


  86. August 25, 2008 at 9:01 am, Guest said:

    i thought it is illegal to deny necessary utilities to your tenant, which puts the landlord in the position of breaching the contract. no?


  87. October 14, 2008 at 12:02 am, Guest said:

    You can’t be legally evicted for being merely a week late. 30 days is very likely the minimum in all states before a landlord may file for eviction.

    In any case, it sounds like you are already evicted but don’t worry about it – it’s highly unlikely that your future landlord will know about any of those sites. If you go looking you might end up on one of them so best to just make sure that you pay your way going forward.


  88. October 27, 2008 at 2:26 am, Guest said:

    I am not the person who posted above, but, I understand about losing your job, I was laid off 3 times since 2001, and now my husband was laid off in January and now it is October and he still has not found gainful employment.

    But, he did find a job making $8.50/hour. While it is not the same as the $35,000/year he used to make, it helps pay the rent, car payments/food etc.

    But, to bash the guy up top, you don’t even know he is rich. He may just be a landlord, and they don’t make that much money trust me. Most work more than 12 hour days and if you figure the salary to the amount of hours worked sometimes it comes out to less than minimum wage!

    But, as an apartment manager, I know what my budget is. I know the expenses that an apartment can make. The company I work for manages for a private owner. So, you have the owners income, the property management’s income, the staff’s income, and then expenses such as repairs, normal employment expeses such as workers compensation, medical, rent, landscaping, advertising, and legal just as the person above stated, the owner of the property really does not make a whole lot on the property.

    Maybe he/she should not have said you all were whiners, but tenants need to understand the cost and expense of running an apartment or condo community.

    The people who come to me mad that I won’t shampoo their carpet or get them new blinds (That they broke) or get the gate that won’t shut fixed today (not tomorrow) need to understand that just as you are suffering in this economy, so is the owner/property management who have to lower rates to get tenants but, the cost of maintaining the units are going up and our budgets are getting smaller.

    Bottom line, is you need to have sympathy as well!


  89. October 27, 2008 at 2:34 am, Guest said:

    I am not sure about all state laws, but in California you cannot remove any property unless you file an eviction. Then they basically have a period of time that they can pay you. Until this time, you cannot remove their property. When the time is up, their property is basically yours to do with as you please. As a property manager, Usually let them come in for 1 day only and get their stuff. It saves me the time and the money of getting their stuff out.

    You do; however, risk them staying and not leaving. This has not happened so far, so I am not sure what the law is if it does because basically they can be arrested if they are on the property but, I am not sure if me letting them back in would do something to that law.

    I always figured I would deny that I let them back in. It never happened and most are greatful I let them get their stuff back even though many times, there was things I could have sold to get the money they owed the property.


  90. October 27, 2008 at 2:44 am, Guest said:

    She should evict them, and then next she should put an amendment/addedum into her lease saying they have so many days to transfer utilities into their names. Paying for their cable is crazy, she can have it turned off. It is in her name not theirs. Cable is not a necessity by law. She can’t turn off their utilities but she can definately turn off their cable.

    And if their lease only lists the original tenants on the lease she can have them evicted. Having additional people living in the unit is a breach of their lease. She needs to find an attorney and file the eviction process imediately.


  91. October 27, 2008 at 2:46 am, Guest said:

    You are correct, you cannot turn off their utilites such as power or water. Because it is a necessity and it is illegal to do so.

    The same with air conditioning. If it was rented with air conditioning, then the air conditioner or heater has to be in working condition. If not, then the tenant has the right to demand rent credit until it is fixed.


  92. November 02, 2008 at 8:44 pm, Guest said:

    I don’t know where you’re renting, but no property owner I know blacklists anyone unless there were severe and outrageous problems–damage, filth, drugs, multiple “tenants” that weren’t given consent to occupy, bullying the landlord, not allowing the landlord to enter to make repairs including water leaks, being chronically late and complete non-payment of rent. I have spent countless hours, days, weeks, cleaning up after “people” who live like animals. There are plenty of nightmare renters out there who aren’t necessarily screened out by background or credit reports. So until you have an investment as large as a house or apartment complex destroyed by some idiot who thinks he/she has the right because they gave you a couple of months rent, don’t judge what landlords do to protect themselves. (Yes, we have to PAY for the property and PAY for the maintenance, repairs,taxes,insurance,utilities, etc–so YOU don’t have to!)

    Again, I have spent weeks cleaning the filth and damage left by renters who “seemed nice” who turned my spotless places into kennels. In my teens and twenties, I was a great renter, respected my landlords, and left the places spotless, owing nothing. I always got my deposit returned. I also spent that time BUILDING excellent credit that made it possible for me to buy and remodel my home and rentals. Part of the credit I built was via my great rental history. (By the way, you cannot “lie” to the bank when obtaining real estate loans. They don’t “take your word for it”. They check your finances out stringently before loaning you money.

    Tenant blacklisting is no different than reporting unethical business practices to the better business bureau. We are conducting a business and providing a service in exchange for payment, not providing social services. You are responsible for providing yourself with the basic necessities and we have the right to refuse service to anyone who is a threat to our business and property. In doing so, we create openings for those who keep their end of the deal.

    It’s pretty obvious you haven’t experienced much of the real world, or you would be showing a better understanding of it. Be decent and responsible, appreciate the person who supplies you with a place to live until you can afford to buy your own, and it will pay off. Don’t bitch about consequences that you create yourself.



    • December 11, 2016 at 5:57 am, 009 said:

      > Not all property owners are the same. Not all renters on the blacklist are there for valid reasons. Generalizations will destroy most statements.


  93. November 30, 2008 at 10:41 pm, Guest said:

    Pay Your rent —–


  94. December 03, 2008 at 11:03 am, Guest said:

    Posts like yours are why some people think the laws need to be changed. I saw many posts of people having hard times due to medical problems or loss of jobs, yet you lump them in with people that don’t pay just because they don’t feel like it.

    I agree it’s not the landlord’s responsibility, but at the same time it shouldn’t be “pay on time regardless of the circumstances or get out and by the way we will make sure you can’t obtain other housing.”
    That attitude by landlords are the reason a lot of tenants take on an “I don’t care, let them evict me” attitude. If they’re going to be evicted and blacklisted anyway, what’s the point? If they’re sick and can’t pay, all the begging and borrowing from friends and family isn’t going to help. Or at least not for long. Everyone is on hard times these days, so saying borrow the money is bull.


  95. January 06, 2009 at 4:05 pm, Guest said:

    That is incorrect, you CAN be evicted for being a day late. And as a landlord, I will look at those sites, that’s what they are there for !!! A lease is contract, it needs to be paid.


  96. May 19, 2009 at 6:23 pm, Guest said:

    I can’t believe that after all these years of having rental properties, that this list exists and I didn’t know about it. I wish I knew!! I have used the basic credit report, and a tenant may look decent on there, but that won’t always be the case. I am an honest, and fair landlord, which just may be my problem. I have way too many horror stories of tenants. Everything from tenants knocking on my door of my personal residence just before midnight on the 5th business day to deliver me the rent check to abandoning the property with no notice and leaving the home exposed to find a family of dogs that have “moved in” and trashed the home. Being hassled by HOA and utility companies because of the tenants actions, and so much more. It’s unbelievable. If I knew about this black list, I would’ve checked this in addition to the usual credit report, to help determine who I would like to rent out MY home to. People whine about being listed, but there are two sides to every story. If they have a bad review, then that’s just one landlord saying to another, beware, I had trouble with them, there’s a chance you might too. It’s the same as word of mouth, just more efficient. I feel sorry for any landlord that ended up with my bad tenants. I’m sure previous landlords have said the same about me.
    I’m glad this is out there. Maybe it will help prevent thousands in losses that we have incurred, from those that deserve to be on this list.
    For those of you who don’t want to be on the blacklist, just simply respect the property and follow the rules and you will have nothing to worry about. If you don’t want to do that, get your own place to trash and default on your own mortgage.


  97. August 16, 2009 at 6:17 pm, Jefferson said:

    Well I’m a landlord and it’s pretty striking that we appear to have as many viewpoints as people here. While everyone and anyone can get into trouble and have issues, it’s unfortunate that many of them CHOOSE not to be forthcoming and communicative to their landlords about it. So, this can put a landlord into a bind and be forced to make a decision in isolation, rather than having a proper and open dialog. I’m not saying that every landlord will “be understanding” to an extent that a renter in trouble might hope for. BUT – you can be fairly sure that they will be less inclined to be fair and helpful if the renter in question doesn’t communicate openly and do their best to make things work from their side.

    I would like to think that I act in a fair and open way with my tenants, who are also my neighbors. Perhaps that makes things a bit different for us than for others, in that my tenants are right upstairs and so I take a LOT of time selecting the right people since it is of equal importance to me how they are as people as to how they are in terms of a mere ability to write me a check each month.

    Anyway, some people here need to consider viewpoints other than their own. The whole thing is a RELATIONSHIP – and sometimes purely a Business Relationship. I want my tenants to be very happy and stay a long time – so I do extra things to make staying desirable for them. Do have to? No. But it’s in MY INTEREST to keep a good tenant happy and spend a bit of time/money to do so. Life isn’t black and white, any way you slice it. I wouldn’t register a tenant of mine with a blacklist unless they put me into a position where I basically had to do so (intentionally caused damage to my property, etc).

    It’s better for people who need to move on – for whatever reason – to move on, quickly and quietly. Life is too short to go actively looking for trouble and creating strife.


  98. September 12, 2009 at 1:55 am, Jordan said:

    Also nice landlord apartments are not homeless shelters or charities. Those are availble in your city and many charities /churches also provide. This is “free housing” so people aren’t living on the street as many have claimed here. Are these shelters super nice accomodations? nope, but you wont freeze and you have a bed to sleep on. Landlord apartments buildings are not charity organizations. Look to family and friends for help as well. FREE means not that great, just like with everything else. It’s better than nothing. In warm weather climates you can live in tent cities/campgrounds for low cost or free and put your stuff in a storage container temporarily while you work you can save alot of money now that you aren’t paying rent, cable, electricity.


  99. January 08, 2010 at 7:56 pm, Mary Sue said:

    I have no evictions on record, my credit is strong, and I moved out of my previous location due to job loss. It was in my lease that if I had previously been a good tenant that, with 60 day notice (and rent) I could leave without penalty.

    Well, I followed the instructions to the letter. Paid the rent for the sixty days and moved on the date my apartment was forfeit. Now I have another, more secure job and attempted to reapply at my previous apartment complex only to be told “Hell no”, application was completely rejected even though my credit score is like 650.

    I was stunned. my credit score now is stronger than it was when I first moved in a year ago, where I was accepted with a deposit of 500 dollars. Why am I being rejected now? I recently got in contact with safe rent as I demand a copy of my file and any information therein. I understand if it was a situation where I was evicted or I trashed the place, or if I was just a lot of trouble, but I received none of this feedback as a tenant, and nothing like occurred to my knowledge. Are you telling me I was blacklisted because I was unfortunate enough to lose my job, just like hundreds of people, in a bad economy?

    If home properties blacklisted me I want a damn good reason why. I’ll be receiving my file from safe rent soon possible and demanding some answers.


  100. September 05, 2011 at 3:56 pm, Cate S said:

    I HAD a long, extensive dialog with my landlord. I explained that my “roomate” was abusive to the point of being dangerous and I had to leave, and he refused to pay rent. I was paying his rent and my own for months, until I went broke. I told the landlord I had to break the lease. He could easily rent that apartment right away and for more money (and probably did) as it’s in one of the most sought after neighborhoods. But now I find out I am being charged ten grand, and I suppose it will be on my credit report. I haven’t had a permanent home for years. Only sublets, and I’m broke.

    I have so many problems in my life, I can’t deal with this. I have 6 storage spaces in different locations that I have to somehow empty out, and I don’t know how to drive. I can’t afford them.

    I’ve had so many terrible things happen to me in NYC, and now it is obvious I’d better just leave. I suppose this blacklist is national though. Well, there’s a whole world out there.


  101. September 08, 2011 at 1:48 am, Gustaf said:

    To the guy named “Wow”:

    You’re right in saying that landlords are engaging in “discrimination” when it comes to eviction. Tenants who pay their rent are allowed to stay, but tenants who don’t pay their rent are evicted. Retailers engage in the same type of discrimination. If you present the cashier with the proper payment for the product you brought to the register, you can take the product home. But if you ask the cashier whether you can simply have the product without paying, she’ll show her discriminatory side and say no.

    Also, you mentioned the possibility that a tenant could get “sick, or fired, or fall on hard times.” What if not the tenant but the landlord got sick, fired, or fell on hard times? Would it be fair for the landlord to ask the tenant to give him an additional couple hundred bucks on top of the usual rent for the next month or two?


  102. October 30, 2011 at 9:13 am, Sangelia said:

    Some rental companies blacklist to keep the tenant in the same building that they are trying to leave. even if it is to a different apartment owned by the same company.
    My husband ran into that. The company had bought his apartment from the first owner of it. The buyers had promised the first owner that they would not raise the rent. Thing is they started on the second month that they were collecting. They also refused to give receipts for rent collected.
    They claimed it was to make the rent equal to the rest of the area. Thing is, they owned pretty much most to all of the apartment buildings in that neighborhood. And they raised the rent in all of them to well beyond in many case what the tenants could afford.
    When my husband tried to get into a different one owned by the same group. he got yelled at for being a “lazy slob tenant” by the manager in that one. That was the first indication he had been blacklisted. Several other places also refused to rent to him too. Thing is, he paid his rent on time every month. and he kept his place clean.
    When the other tenants also tried to leave. they were all blacklisted as well. The only reason my husband managed to get out. Was that I needed a tenant. And I knew him as a friend. So I rented to him a room in my home. I did not need to run a credit check. or a blacklisting check on him. Since it is ILLEGAL to blacklist in America.
    by the way, since then. the company that did the blacklisting has had to deal with several lawsuits over the blacklisting. Because as I found out about blacklisting being illegal.


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  104. July 28, 2012 at 12:58 pm, Robert said:

    I’ve worked for the same bar & lived in the same house for 8 years, the owne of the bar is my landlady. The establishment was recently under investigation by the labor board, I cooperated and was fired. Now , 4 weeks after that my landlady put a notice in my door saying I have 30 days to move out. All rent & bills are paid, my house is in fine shape, she said she wants to renovate it but it’s still retaliation as far as I can tell. I can’t come up with deposit money for my brother & I in just 30 days ( remember she fired me) I have a 2nd job but can’t save that much in one month. Help, do I have any recourse ??


  105. September 13, 2012 at 2:43 am, Lu said:

    There are laws that protect “whistleblowers” who cooperate in investigations of illegal practices by their employers. I would suggest you talk to an attorney who specializes in labor law. You may have a cause of action against her for wrongful termination.


  106. November 14, 2012 at 9:23 pm, Melanie Neofitou said:

    I was blacklisted because I did not sign a bond release form. It was not made known to me that I was required to sign the form until a much later date. By that time the time in which to challenge the blacklisting had expired. This lack of communication was due to a telephone line fault in Margot Street, Ferntree Gully. Telecommunications servie men were requested to attend six times and failed to repair the fault. The lines seemed to have been drowned. (underwater)

    Truely, a most unfortunatel situation. Is there anyway known I can escape the ‘blacklist’?

    – Mel Neo


  107. October 03, 2016 at 11:38 pm, Katherin Barrow said:

    We were in a situation of unemployment, awaiting unemployment insurance and TANF. I went to housing authority who offered to pay the month's rent we were going to miss. Long story short an office worker sat on the offer and served us with a quit notice. Soon after we got a letter from housing authority stating management company refused the check no reason given. We went to court, got some legal counsel who told us that since we didn't have paperwork the judge would side with the management company. The office girl mumbled something like the housing authority asked for our tax info, an obvious lie. That's that. My family is homeless, living out of hotel to hotel, my son not attending school, and us spending every penny on hotel rooms. My question is will this follow us once we leave SoCal?


  108. November 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm, Jae Riesenberg said:

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  109. February 06, 2017 at 12:11 pm, Patty said:

    We don't have that here we need it I want to see on mine what this exlandlord of mine wrote I can't even get a place too live cause of it I will fight that like tooth and nail I am going to tell other people not to rent to them I got screwed by a manager when initially she kept my land deposit then I filed a complaint then she screwed me with a dump mobile home and tried to tell me she didn't know it had any problems too it bs too I moved out the electric bill got up $530 dollars there it was a summer trailer and it is hard to keep that warm my pipes froze up and I had no water like what am I suppose to do since I was buying and I was told if your buying that the owner is still liable for that til it is paid off.


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