Tips for Splitting Rent Among Roommates

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Dirty dishes, late-night noise, unwanted guests: These roommate conflicts pale in comparison to disputes over paying rent. When you first move in to a new apartment, or if new roommates join you in your current place, you’ll have to work out the best way to split the rent among all the tenants. Resolving this issue amicably and openly sets the stage for good roommate relations in the future. Unfortunately, there is no blueprint for how rent should be split. The lease given to you by your landlord will usually indicate the total amount of rent due each month but will not provide guidance on how to split the rent. Here are some typical ways tenants divide rent and some other factors to consider.

An Even Split

This is a simple and easy solution, appropriate when each bedroom is approximately the same size and each tenant is using a comparable portion of the utilities. However, complications can arise if, despite equal-sized bedrooms, one room is perceived as more desirable. An exposed brick wall, the presence or absence of a fire escape, a nicer view, or the amount of daylight a room receives can make one room seem like a much better deal than another of the same size or shape. Be sure to discuss any of these issues before determining how rent is split. You won’t want a small issue to grow into a source of simmering resentment.

Split by Size, Shape, and Other Factors

In many apartments, one room is considerably larger or better shaped than the others. If this is the case, or some other quality about a room makes it preferable to the others, you may want to raise the rent share that the room occupant will pay. If all the tenants are new to the apartment, it may be preferable to set the rents for each room before the room occupancy is assigned. This way, the roommates can have an impersonal discussion about the merits of each room and then choose rooms based on their personal finances. If possible, speak with former tenants to get a sense of how rent was split in the past.

Splitting Utilities

If utilities are not included in the rent, tenants will need to decide how to split the cost. Utility bills can be a source of conflict, but they can also provide an opportunity to create a more equitable arrangement among roommates. Before deciding how utilities will factor into the rental arrangement, consider whether the utilities are being used equally. If one roommate has an air conditioner in his room while the others do not, it may not make sense to split the electricity bills equally in the summer. The same thing applies with cable bills: one person may not be able to live without HBO while the other barely watches television. In apartments where rooms are comparable but not of equal quality, some roommates use utility bills to level out inequities. A roommate with a slightly better room may pay the cable bill for the apartment on top of his rent, especially if he uses the TV more than everyone else. In other cases, each roommate is responsible for a separate bill; one person pays the gas bill, another the cable bill and a third the electric bill. Some roommates even agree to a discount for the person who actually administers the bill paying. When several bills arrive each month, someone needs to calculate each person’s share, mail the payments and ensure that bills are paid on time. A discount on utilities or some other special incentive may motivate one of your roommates to step up to this task.

Moving into an Already Occupied Apartment

If you are moving into an apartment where the other tenants have been living for a while, you may find that your share of the rent has already been established for you, either by the former tenant or your new roommates. Before you agree to live in the apartment, find out what the apartment’s total rent is and calculate what your roommates are paying. Rental increases, broker fees and other costs are often passed on to new tenants while the older tenants pay less. While such arrangements are perfectly legal (and acceptable to the landlord), you may want to make sure your roommates aren’t ripping you off before you move in. It may seem a little awkward, but feel free to ask your roommates what they pay in rent and utilities. If they are hesitant or unwilling to give you this information, you may want to look elsewhere.

Other Things to Consider

No matter what you and your roommates decide about paying the rent, remember that as long as you are on the lease, you are responsible for the rent if your roommates can’t or won’t pay their share. Look at your lease. It probably includes a clause stating that all tenants are “jointly and severally” liable for the rent. If a roommate leaves unexpectedly, loses his job, or otherwise defaults on the rent, you will have to pay unless someone else can. A rental agreement among roommates, whether it is written as a binding legal document or not, may help define responsibilities and expectations among roommates.

103 Responses to “Tips for Splitting Rent Among Roommates”

  1. June 29, 2007 at 6:21 pm, Guest said:

    If a roommate decides to move out early, is she still required to pay her part of the cable bill? She is still paying her part of the rent because our lease ends in August and I’m covering the gas and electric. I can’t pay the cable bill on my own and i’m wondering if she should still have to pay her half since she moved out early.

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  2. July 01, 2007 at 12:35 am, Guest said:

    Choose roommates wisely. Even if they’re friends you don’t want to have them paying you weekly installments to cover their portion of the rent, simply because they’re not financially stable or organized enough to have their rent at the beginning of the month. It will get old quick, believe me.

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  3. July 06, 2007 at 7:46 am, Guest said:

    You could ask for it, but cable is not a necessity.

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  4. July 07, 2007 at 5:06 pm, Guest said:

    More advice for the “even split” suggestion…

    Usually everyone will pay an even split, but it will be to one person who then pays the overall rent check. Make sure THAT person is responsible with their bills and paying on time. I’m moving out from my 2 roommates mainly because the one responsible for paying all the bills has done the following…

    1) let the bills go so long that our power, cable, etc has gotten cut off (this, even after my other roommate and I have paid him on time…he didn’t pay the companies on time, though)

    2) he wouldn’t show us the bills. I kept wondering why the phone and cable TV bills would fluctuate in price (they should be a fixed, split price). It’s because he was passing on the cost of his a) $10 long distance phone calls, b) $30/mo porn movie rental habit, and c) late fee charges, to us. An even split of bills should be an even split of the BASE bill. Whoever racks up additional charges & late fees on each bill gets to pay for that themselves. (EG: if you pay your roommate on time, but they don’t pay the company on time, then THEY suck up the late fee. They were irresponsible…they get to pay for it.)

    3) Only pay AFTER you’ve seen the bills. Living with roommates, even if they’re friends, is a business. You wouldn’t pay for a meal without a check. So, don’t pay your roommate unless s/he shows you the bills. This lets you control the money. For about 2 months, I would pay a flat sum to my roommate to cover all rent and bills. When I actually got ahold of the bills and calculated it all, I figured out I was over-paying him $25 each month. I got very upset by this, because he was pocketing the extra money (or using it to pay off the late fees by him not paying on time). This put him in control of my money, and I didn’t like it. So, I stopped paying him until he showed me the bills. This put me in control of my money, since he would then have to pay everything out of his own pocket unless he showed me how much to pay. Plus, when I say “show me the bills” I mean it literally. A roommate that just tells you how much you need to pay is not good enough. They may not be trying to swindle you, but they may just be guessing (over-guessing in most cases).

    4) If you continually get phone messages from companies requesting payment on over-due bills…look for another roommate to live with, or, ask that the bills get put in your name. This is the sign of a roommate that isn’t responsible enough to pay on time. Late Rent notices are another red flag.

    5) Having the bills in your name is a plus and minus. You control the cash flow to the companies, and can make sure things are paid on time. The down-side is, you might have to fight with irresponsible roommates to pay YOU on time. If they don’t pay, then let the power or whatever go out. If they want it back on, they need to pay you. My rule of thumb is, don’t pay a utility or rent until EVERYONE has forked over their money. This can get tricky with rent payments (but if you’re having to fight with roommates about paying you rent on time, you need to ditch them and move). But for utility bills it works pretty good.

    6) Having control of the bills usually means their in your name, too, which means you can shop around for better deals on them. My 2 roommates and I talked about lowering our expenses, so I shopped around for lower cost utilities. I found cheaper phone and cable bills (which would have saved $50 total per month), but the roommate in charge of the bills blew it off. Apparently he didn’t want to save money after all. Well, I DID, but couldn’t do anything about it, because the bills were in his name.

    7) The best advice is to live on your own if you can afford it. Not everyone can, but if you can, even if it’s a little tight on the pocketbook, it’s worth it. You are in complete control of your bills, and your own responsibility (or irresponsibility) will dictate your success (or failure).

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  5. July 22, 2007 at 12:14 pm, Guest said:

    I about had it covering my room mate’s share of the bills. He got sick and was off work a few weeks, fine, but since then, he never really “recovered” from being behind on the bills. He still owes me utility bills since May. Always has the rent in on time though. But the lease is up in a week and I bought a house and he’s moving back home with Mom. I have a hunch it won’t last long though.

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  6. July 25, 2007 at 11:38 pm, Guest said:

    The only thing she is legally obligated to pay is rent.

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  7. July 26, 2007 at 10:19 am, Guest said:

    Don’t hold your breath for him to pay. Just make sure you don’t let him move into the new house, or you will end up in the same situation again.

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  8. July 27, 2007 at 4:22 pm, Guest said:

    Best way hands down in splitting the rent is first seeing who wants the master bedroom the most. Just auction it off. The person who is willing to pay the most in rent gets that room. Then move onto the next desirable room and so forth. That way everyone gets what they want. Either a nice room or cheaper rent.
    Its not rocket science.

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  9. July 28, 2007 at 7:43 am, Guest said:

    I just got an apartment with a good friend, and we are both in college. I found the apartment and my parents hired a real estate agent and paid 3/4 of the realtor fee while my roommmates parents paid the other 1/4. I have done 80% of the groundwork for this apartment. Problem is, when I expressed interest in a particular bedroom, my roommate also expressed interest. When I offerred to pay more for the room, she offerred to pay even more. Any tips on how to work this out, without causing tension and resentment.

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  10. August 02, 2007 at 3:44 pm, Guest said:

    I live in a 3 bedroom apartment and we all have a separate lease with the apartment complex. The utility bill is under my name but we split the bill in 3. My roommate moved out but didn’t leave me the 80$ check she owed me for the electricity bill of June/July. What can I do to make her pay I don’t even have her contact info!

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  11. August 27, 2007 at 11:22 pm, Guest said:

    Splitting rent question.
    You have 4 equal rooms and 6 roommates total. 4 girls are sharing 2 rooms and the other 2 will have their own rooms. How is the rent split?

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  12. September 07, 2007 at 8:38 am, Guest said:

    I’m in the same situation for a $140 electric bill with my roommates and I do have their contact info, address, 0bviously, and email confirmation that they would pay it…. all I can say is good luck. I’m not holding my breath on these girls. There are a lot of cheap undignified people out there, so you may just have to suck it up, pay it and not be one of them, and if it’s any consollation, you’re definitely not alone.

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  13. September 13, 2007 at 2:23 pm, Guest said:

    Split total rent into 4 parts. The two who have their own room will each pay a quarter of the total rent, and the 4 who share rooms will each pay 1/8th of the total rent.. That is the easiest way, IMO

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  14. October 04, 2007 at 1:25 pm, Guest said:

    Hey guys, I had a roommate that my mom found for me from s newspaper ad, and I moved in with her in Jan. 2007. It was ok for three weeks until I started seeing men’s clothing everyhere and more funriture. I asked her what was happening and hse said she decided that weekend that her boyfriend was moving in with her and that he already gave his apaprtment a 30 day notice. I was shocked, and even more shocked when they told me they wanted to move to a bigger place. I had just moved in with her, thinking I was going to live there with just my female roommate. I agreed to move out to a bigger place with them, and even helped find an apartment that suited their budget. In the first apt. I paid 500.00 a month in rent, and before the move the (rude and confrontational boyfriend) told me that becasue I am moving with them, they are going to keep my rent the same, but that in the event that I move out, they will charge the new person 600.00 I have been living at the new place for 6 months with them and the other day out of nowhere, he says he wnat me to pay 100.00 more, he wants me to pay the 600.00 a month. I am never home (I am a senior in college and single mom, we are litereally never home), all thier furniture is in the living room, you would never know I live there except that I sppe and wake up and shower there, and he said he raised the rent becasue he want it more fair for them. I am on the lease. DO I have any rights? Can I refuse to pay this increase? Please help!!! he keeps calling my phone and asking me to agree to the increase.

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  15. October 11, 2007 at 10:10 pm, Guest said:

    Before moving in – me, and my two roommates decided everything would be split 3 ways. Everything. The one roommate pays for the other roommate’s portions since she doesn’t have money right now – that was their choice and now resposibility. And one day, I find out they decided to split the cable bill in half! I question the one roommate whose bills are being payed for by the other’s. She said since she doesn’t use it “as much”, she left it to be split between me and the other roommate. SHE LEFT IT? She doesn’t even pay any bills, how come SHE has a say?? I’m obviously upset because 1) We never discussed this. THEY made the decision, assuming I wouldn’t care and that it was fair. And 2) If she uses it AT ALL “she” should be paying some if not her third. Right??

    And here’s another thing — for a while, the one who doesn’t pay, cooks dinner bought by the other and we’d all eat dinner together. I would still always ask before grabbing a plate, but they insisted every time. Then all of sudden, my one roommate gets notices for the loans she has to pay off and suddenly I’m not eating dinner with them anymore. Which I didn’t expect when first moving in anyway – But my problem with this is why does the other roommate get to have the dinner when she is paying absolutely NOTHING and I am actually helping with all the bills and definitely paying more than I should for the Cable? Oh and they can sit there and have their dinner while drinking beverages I BUY. You’d think I could at least have leftovers, no?

    But I guess part of this is partially my own fault for not demanding to see the bills. I was just recently going through my checkbook thinking “Why is Cable so much?” Before I guess I blew it off because we had ordered two or three extra channels, but no – that wouldn’t put on $40+ dollars.

    Can’t wait until my sister moves up here – we may be moving in together – you can be up front all you want with family. :) Her and her roommates apparently put the bills up on the fridge so that everyone can see it as they should. I’m new to this though, and just figured my best friend wouldn’t do such a thing knowing I didn’t have the kind of money she does.

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  16. November 05, 2007 at 12:51 am, Guest said:

    If you can’t afford the cable on your own, and she is not there using it or paying for it, consider canceling the cable.

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  17. November 07, 2007 at 8:56 am, Guest said:

    It sounds like you’re in roommate hell. I sympathize with you. Don’t worry, living will be easier once you move out.

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  18. November 07, 2007 at 9:00 am, Guest said:

    Ask the apartment complex for her info or forwarding address. They should have that info for you. Explain to the your situation and write a friendly letter to your ex-roomate with your contact info. If s/he refuses to respond, you’ll have it eat it or go to court (way more expensive than the cost of the bill), but you can mention it to the rental office, because if they are ever used for a reference for the ex tennant, they may mention it to future landlords.

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  19. November 07, 2007 at 9:04 am, Guest said:

    A little more advice – watch out for couples. Discuss boyfriend/girlfriend visits before hand. If they’re going to be staying every night, they need to help out on rent. I lived in a 2br and both of us has significant others. It got messy because we both wanted them over all of the time. Eventually, my b/f started paying a 1/3 of the rent, and I told her if her b/f was staying all the time we should all pay a 1/4 and put them on the lease. They started living at his place, and I only had to see her spoiled, ugly face once a week after that. It wasn’t a good situation, discuss significant others BEFORE you move in

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  20. November 16, 2007 at 12:02 pm, Guest said:

    lived in Bay Ridge Brooklyn one year. had to work in Lutheran Medical Center north of there. Wiseguy landlord gave me a cheap illegal “sublet.” tell the lil ole ladies youre my cousin kinda deal.

    THEN he started moving stuff in and middle of the year HE moved in on me. Gave me a discount but had to be out when he was kicking with his gf. Middle aged divorced guy he knew better.

    Never had a landlord or lady who was not a total s**thead. they just do not get it

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  21. November 28, 2007 at 10:37 am, Guest said:

    I moved out of my apartment a month ago with much advanced notice on my two roommates. The lease is up in August and it is only November. I need to know if I am responsible for the utilities even though I have vacated the property.

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  22. December 01, 2007 at 11:27 am, Guest said:

    Your absence is actually lowering the cost of some utilities, such as electricity and heating. With that in mind, your former roommates would have some nerve charging you for a portion of their now lowered utilities. By the same token, flat utility fees, such as sewer and trash, should be shared by those who are using the services, not those who are gone.

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  23. December 09, 2007 at 7:47 pm, Guest said:

    i am a solo lease holder and i share a 3 bedroom apartment with 2 people. i have given them thirty days to leave, and they have been threatening me with laywers and damaging some things in my apartment while im not there. they said they had left checks for this month but i didnt see any. this could be in retaliation for me asking them to leave, where they suddenly decided to take the checks back and get even by screwing me over financially. the security deposit i gave to the landlord was split evenly between me and two other people at the beginning of the lease. when one person moves out they get their security deposit back from me (granted they pay their share and didnt damage anything) and the new person pays them the money to take their place. essecencially when you move in im taking that money for the same reason my landlord does, and by giving it to me, this is my backup if you dont pay me rent. if they (my roomates now) end up not paying me for time when they or their things were still occupying the rooms in the apartment do i have a right to keep this “security” money to cover rent they did not pay me? if i did keep this security deposit because of non payment of rent would they be able to come after me for it or what are the chances a judge would make a ruling in their favor? i have email proof of harassment/threats, of when i agreed to give them 30 days notice, pictures of broken things, correspondence of them telling me they are leaving rent for me for this month, bank statements that i can use to prove i have not deposited any checks from them.

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  24. December 10, 2007 at 7:40 am, Guest said:

    I agree I made the biggest mistake of my life. By having my brothers fiance move in. Things are horrible on my end. My advice to anyone just live on your own. Its simply not worth it living with anyone. It can get ugly tiring especially if you’re living with someone. Who doesnt like to clean behind themselves. I found this out the hard way.

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  25. December 17, 2007 at 12:02 pm, Guest said:

    what does your contract with your roommates say? if you don’t have a written contract with your roomies (not your lease contract, but an actual written contract between yourselves) that says specifically that THEY have paid YOU a security deposit for reasons a, b and c (damages, unpaid rent, etc.), you’re going to have a lot of trouble proving that you have the right to keep their security deposits.

    if you do have a written contract with your roommates, the following applies:
    an apartment manager who doesn’t receive all of the rent is not required to return the security deposit in full because the tenant reneged on their side of the written contract. you are essentially acting as a “broker” for the apartment, so this applies, as long as you have a written contract with the people you lived with.

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  26. December 26, 2007 at 11:29 pm, Guest said:

    I was in a sticky situation back in 1990 with a former roomate. He was alright and we each split the rent and other bills, but then he let this 18-year-old punk in that stole my food, dirtied dishes, and even schtuped a girl in my bed. Then he wanted to fight me. I kicked him to the curb and found out that he was stealing my socks as well, and had a warrant out for his arrest. We got kicked out for keeping this guy, and I vowed I’d never have a roomate again unless it was a spouse. My wife and I married in 1994, and she’s been the best roomate I’ve ever had.
    One of her friends wanted to stay with us, and this included her husband. I said no, and this was a good thing. This guy divorced our friend and ran up a $600 phone bill. I might have been stuck with this as well. When in doubt, don’t move in, or let them move in.

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  27. January 10, 2008 at 12:56 am, Guest said:

    are there any GOOD roommate stories???

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  28. January 11, 2008 at 11:26 pm, Guest said:

    I disagree with the response above. The person leaving early is leaving a financial burden on the other roommates. This person should be responsible for their share of the utilities until the lease ends or else help the roommates find an agreeable person to sublet and help make up for the financial burden left upon the roommates. Heating costs don’t change that drastically when one person is gone. The use for refridgerators, lights and heating costs stay the same. A few less showers maybe. If anything, this person would have some nerve to get off scott free.

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  29. January 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm, Guest said:

    my roommate has a daughter who is 13 — she was 10 when we moved in herre — she says that since her daughter is not employed I should be paying half of all the bills – i say that it is her responsibility to support her daughter — for the first three years we were here her daughter had the largest room – and I now have and have always had the smallest — it is a reoccuring argument whenever she gets mad at me — any thoughts?

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  30. February 11, 2008 at 1:54 pm, Guest said:

    It is not your daughter you SHOULD NOT have to pay for her. That would be absolutely ridiculous. Also, your roommate has no right to change your rent out of nowhere because she doesn’t want to pay as much (until the end of your lease or sublet anyway). honest opinion – you need to find an apartment with someone more responsible and reliable. In my apartment we have different sized rooms and pay accordingly, mine is more than the smallest and less than the biggest. I suppose it comes down to your agreement. If you are on the lease it is a joint decision, if you are subletting she can not change your agreement until the end, and if there is no official agreement… you have nothing to fall back on exceot that it would be wrong and irresponsible to make you pay for her daughter. She is not your responsibility. Good luck!

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  31. February 13, 2008 at 9:49 am, Guest said:

    I moved into an apartment with a guy in August for 600 a mth for my room, a little while after i discovered that the rent for apartment is 1025.00, and i am also still splitting utilities. now he picks a fight ever so often and i discovered that he has put the room back out there asking for 650 a mth rent + utilities – what can i do about this whole situation?

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  32. March 12, 2008 at 12:33 am, Guest said:

    MY ROOMATE JUST SUCKS!!! Simple as that!

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  33. March 27, 2008 at 10:00 am, Guest said:

    are you in a lease? If so there is nothing he can do about it, enless hes the landlord. But even then he is required by state law to give you “proper notice”. About the price, your kinda stuck, thats what you agreed to when you moved in. Take it as a lesson learned and next time use it as a negoation platform. Ask to see the last 3 months of all bills that you will be required to pay and make sure your NOT getting the short end of the stick. Remember to take the room you will be occupying into consideration, is it the biggest, smallest, have a walk in closet? It may be smart to consider the household duties as well, if your clean and there not, if you cook and they don’t. Don’t sell ourself short, get the most for your money!

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  34. March 27, 2008 at 10:17 am, Guest said:

    absolutly responsable. If your in a lease with your roomates and agreed to be financially responsable untill August you should be held to that. I say if there only asking for your portion of the utilities, your getting off easy. If you were my roomate, Id still be collecting your portion of the rent on top of the utilities. Untill a new “qualified” roomate was found to replace your monitary support of the bills.

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  35. March 27, 2008 at 10:38 am, Guest said:

    Need advice…we live in a 3 bedroom house and it was 3 of us. All rooms are different sizes from small, medium and large. Now my roommate’s girlfriend is pregnant and he decides to move her in with him in his room and split his portion of the rent with her. He is in the medium sized room.
    The questions is should they be paying extra? Because there will be a whole new person using the house. We will share the utilities 4 ways, the issue is only rent. Please Advise.
    Thanks

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  36. March 28, 2008 at 6:20 pm, Guest said:

    This can be a touchy subject.. I feel RENT should be split by room not necessarily by person. My roomate and I split 1200$ rent our rooms are about same size so its an even split im ok w/ it. however my GF stays over quite a bit. so what I do to make up for it is instead of splitting utilities by 2 we split by 3, since she’s there using up electricity as well. ..

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  37. April 07, 2008 at 1:35 am, Guest said:

    Yes they should pay their share. And be very careful in this situation because once she moves in if there is any conflict, YOU are the one who will have to move out!

    You can’t kick out pregnant women or babies onto the street.

    Overall, if she moves in I think it’s a matter of time before you’ll be moving out.

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  38. April 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Guest said:

    I am a single mother of 2 (ages 9 and 11) and am plannning to move into a 4 bedroom house with my best friend. she has no kids but has 2 small dogs. the rent is $2,250.00 I am trying ot figure out how we should splitt the rent. I have not discussed $ arrangments with her. but she knows that I would like it if both of my kids each have their own room. She also knows that I am willing ot pay more money than her since we will have 3 rooms. The most I can afford right now is about$1,300.00 since i have many more expenses that she does. This means she would be paying $950.00. Does that sound fair to offer? Would it be too much to then also ask that I get the Master bedroom? I plan to have my kids share thius bathroom with me and not the guest bathroom. I love my friend and don’t want to be unfair… it is just a bit tuffer for me since I have child care expensess, car, needs for my kids… We will be splitting the utilities in 1/2. i spend most of my time at work or at my kids sport activities. Just need someone’s outside opinion.

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  39. April 17, 2008 at 5:59 pm, Guest said:

    A few questions… Are you on the lease? Did you pay a damage deposit or utility deposit? How much advance notice did you give before you moved out? If you gave at LEAST 30 days notice, you should be clear of any financial responsibility. That should have given them some time to try to find a replacement or for you to find a replacement. As long as you paid all of your bills and rent up until you moved out and didn’t do any damage, they can’t really do much. I suppose if you were financially able and wanted to be a nice guy, you could pay an extra month or two for your utilities and maybe half of your regular rent, just to help them out a little.

    Hope this helps. Good luck!

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  40. April 17, 2008 at 6:12 pm, Guest said:

    Hmm.. Fun. First, a few questions…. Are all 3 of you (the original 3) on the lease? He shouldn’t be able to move someone in without getting it approved by you and your other roommate, but I suppose it also depends on if you have some sort of a contract or arrangement amongst yourselves.

    I do think it is right to split the utilities 4 ways, but adding an extra person is going to cut into everyone’s common space (ie living room, kitchen, bathroom, laundry, storage etc). I think that they should have to pay a certain amount extra since it is another person, even though they’re sharing a room. Maybe not as much as a full roommate’s share, but enough to cover the inconvenience of having an extra person in the house.

    But that’s just my opinion. Hope you figure everything out! Good luck!

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  41. April 30, 2008 at 11:08 pm, Guest said:

    Offer her the Master Bedroom. This way she will have her own private bathroom, and you and your children could share the other bathroom…. Also a plus for you because your children wont be trapsing through your room, waking you up, to use the restroom 10 times in the middle of the night!

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  42. April 30, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Guest said:

    I do not agree that the person who left should be held responsible for UTILITIES that they do not incure. HOWEVER, normal utilities, such as gas and electric, are payed AFTER they are incured, so the person who has left is still responsible for their portion of the utilities they incured prior to leaving. For example: one moved out on the 30 of April, but the gas bill doesn’t come until May 5th for the period of April 1st to April 30th, the bill should be split because the room mate WAS still living there for that period.

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  43. May 03, 2008 at 5:13 pm, Guest said:

    Here’s my situation:

    Moved into a 2 BR apartment for 600/mo. Found the place in a classified. One master bedroom with a bathroom and one guest room and a guest bathroom. Master BR already taken by the guy who has been living here past 2 years. He runs a small company from his bedroom that does computer stuff, so he has 3 desktops and 2 laptops running at all times.

    When I moved he said it would be 300/mo since I had my own BR and he considered the guest bathroom mine as well. I told him in that case I would like it if we could switch rooms half-way through the lease because the master BR is nearly twice the size and has a bathroom connected.

    When the time comes in November to switch rooms he is totally unwilling and starts telling me he’s had that room for 2.5 years and it would be way too much to move all his stuff out.

    I told him in that case I was only going to pay 1/3 of the utilities instead of the 1/2 I had been paying. The utilities are in his name since he’s been here so long.

    Now I think he is trying to drive up how much I pay.
    For example, in December when I was home for break, he stayed in the apartment and managed to rack up a $174 electric bill between powering his computer business and heating the place. He also upgraded our internet connection to some 2MB super fast cable that is now costing $64/month. I never asked for it but now he wants me to pay half of that as well.

    I don’t know what to tell him. He is constantly harassing me for half of the money. He says I owe him over $400 so far this year! He is completely unreasonable and every time I bring up the master bedroom he changes the subject.

    I don’t know what to do. I’m in hell. I hardly ever a the apartment anymore because I can’t stand the constant harassment. The electric bills are still averaging $100 a month and our wonderful $64/mo cable internet I don’t use. Please help… :(

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  44. May 05, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Guest said:

    I relocated to Seattle and moved in with a friend. We are currently in a 2 bedroom, 1 1/5 bath. She has the master bedroom (we share bathroom), and the whole apartment is her stuff. I basically have my room, a shelf in the bathroom, and a cabinet in the kitchen. The rent is $1150, she says water is $70-$80, electric $200! (which I found out was a lie), and $150 for cable and internet (I rarely watch TV). She wants me to pay half of everything, however I do not think it is fair. What is reasonable to pay in my situation? I found rooms for rent in the same area for about $550-650 a month… I am not sure what to do!

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  45. May 15, 2008 at 9:20 am, Guest said:

    Stalemate needs resolved…

    We live in a 4-bedroom townhouse with 4 levels. Rent is not cheap because we live inside the DC beltway, as well as a nice neighborhood within walking distance to the metro. A roommate’s long distance girlfriend got a job up and moved after she finished school. Before she moved in, we all talked and thought it would be fair if she paid $300 a month (not even 10% of our rent).

    She refuses to pay, and our roommate doesn’t think it’s fair to charge her rent, when another roommate has his girlfriend over every night.

    Any Advice?

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  46. May 29, 2008 at 10:02 pm, Guest said:

    Half sounds about right. Guess it depends on how much nicer the master is. Maybe a 45/55 split if it’s a lot nicer. You should be splitting bills in half for sure. I’m not sure why you are complaining that it is all her furniture. Are you not allowed to sit on the couch? Sounds like a deal to me. Half of 1150 is 575. Seems like the other places would be about the same if you moved – or more! Plus you would have to get your own furniture.

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  47. May 29, 2008 at 10:23 pm, Guest said:

    One thing that I do is to have the utilities averaged so you pay the same amount every month. The gas, electric and water do this by looking at the last 12 months’ usage, and averaging. That way, the rent and the utilities are fixed each month. Cable is a luxury, so we don’t have it, and each person has their own space in the refrigerator; it’s taboo to eat food not your own. Works out pretty well. Most of the furniture in the apartment is mine so I factored that in when when splitting the rent.

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  48. May 30, 2008 at 7:15 am, Guest said:

    why do you feel it is your right to have the master bedroom your roomate was there first and is the lease holder both of you are single adults there doesnt seem to be any children involved either way one of you is sacrificing space i think that you are simply thinking about yourself

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  49. June 06, 2008 at 11:15 am, Guest said:

    Question about splitting rent:

    Can a tenant (he’s on the lease) make the roommates pay the rent any way he wants? Ie, the rent is $800/month, the 3 roommates pay $300, $300, and $200 and the person actually on the lease doesn’t pay ANYTHING. There is no contract just a verbal agreement of what the rent was, but when my boyfriend agreed to it he did not know he was being cheated and that rent wasn’t being split fairly. Also, when someone is told they are to move 07/31 can the person renting to them file a restraining order, therefore making them have to move sooner?

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  50. June 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Guest said:

    I need to know how to split the rent evenly between 3 people in a 2 br. rent is $1550. My husband and I have the bigger room and believe the rent should be split 60/40. Our roommate has the smaller room and insists we split rent 3 ways. She also uses the two largest rooms in the house (dining/living) for private dance lessons 2hrs a day 5 days a week. Show we be taking that into consideration? What is fair, 3-ways or 60/40

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  51. June 13, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Guest said:

    Your an ——- about the bedroom thing. Stop being a —–, pay your rent or move out.

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  52. June 23, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Guest said:

    I agree with you.

    I don’t think it’s fair that he is keeping the master bedroom, but I think you should have cut your rent in the beginning because it is so much bigger. If it is twice the size, it could’ve been split 2:1 (pretend your his bedroom is actually 2 bedrooms), so 400 for him, 200 for you. Utilities should be split in half, on principle, no matter what. Both of you live there and both of you consume energy. This might be too late, but I would ask for the 400 to 200 rent split from now on. You could bring up the fact that you have been paying half the entire time, that he should give you back some of your money, but that doesn’t seem likely.

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  53. July 14, 2008 at 6:53 pm, Guest said:

    60/40 sounds fair to me. One way to get a more accurate percentage would be to base it on actual square footage being used.. for example if bed 1 is 25% of the total and bed 2 is 20% the split would be 61.7/38.3. Utilizing the remaining common rooms for dance lessons 5 days a week is significant, especially if it creates noise and prevents others from using those areas. If it does I would say 50/50.

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  54. July 19, 2008 at 3:19 pm, Guest said:

    I moved in with my ‘best friend’ and realized it wasn’t a good choice. She is now in charge of splitting one of the bills we receive for the summer and we aren’t talking. She refuses to show me the bill, saying her SSN is on it (which I called and it isn’t). Do I have to pay my part of the bill if she refuses to show me the actual amount. The only reason is because the roomies and I feel she added money onto it last month. How do I go about this?

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  55. July 24, 2008 at 2:14 am, Guest said:

    There’s three of you. Split the rent three ways. The two of you have the larger room: why should she pay a little under half the rent?

    Then you can work out the separate issue of dance lessons.

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  56. July 30, 2008 at 10:25 pm, Guest said:

    First of all, even if her social security number is on the bill (which is almost always never the case) unless its like a student loan payment or something for that manner, and now more and more those are even being removed for identity protection. All she would need to do is either white out her SS number or black it out with a marker, which is sad in the first place, because if she was your so called best friend she should trust you well enough that it shouldnt matter if you know it or not. If the bill is in her name it is her responsibility, if your name is on it then you are responsible as well, and have every right to see the bill in question. If she refuses to show you the bill she is hiding something, and demand to see it, but what ever you do, don’t pay her a dime until she shows you the bill.

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  57. August 04, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Guest said:

    How do you split the rent price with your roommate that has a 2 almost 3 year old daughter?

    I just recently moved in with my roommate about a week and a half ago. She already was living in a 3 bedroom apartment since the month of March which she originally got with the father of her child which she has kicked out for not being responsible. I met her through a mutual friend and was told that she needed a roommate. I have been living by myself for the past 5 years but I was recently was laid off from my job. So I decided that this would be a good opportunity to roommate with someone.

    Before I moved in we have agreed for me to pay her $450.00 for rent and utilities included. She also informed me later after considering moving in that I have to increase my pay to $500.00 when I become employed again. Her rent is $900.00 monthly. She also has a separate payment for water, electricity, and the bundle plan for cable, internet, and phone ($99 plan).

    Just a few days ago she told me that if the electric bill exceeds more than $5 to $10 of what she usually pays, than I have to pay the difference. I feel that that is not reasonable because there is a whole new person staying there. So I’m trying to figure the percentage amount that I should pay her for the two fixed prices for the rent and cable, and just pay the difference for the water and electric from what she normally pays so we won’t have any issues with that. I don’t like that fact that she keeps changing something when I originally told her before I moved in that I wanted to ay her one fixed price monthly. It’s not a big deal that she went up $50 for rent for when I become employed again, but I just want everything to be within reason. She is creating a lease agreement for me and I want to make sure that the finance split is clear on it. I do not want to pay 50% of the rent even though her daughter is only 2. Her daughter is still part of her space. Se did give up her daughter’s bathroom to me and they now share the other.

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  58. August 05, 2008 at 6:17 pm, Guest said:

    My two friends and I are moving into a 3 bed 2 bath apt. The master bedroom has it’s own 3/4 bathroom (meaning shower only) and walk in closet. The other two bedrooms have large closets and share the hall bathroom. Rent for the whole unit is $1100. How much extra should I pay for the master bedroom?

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  59. August 16, 2008 at 11:58 pm, Guest said:

    Asked to pay more for rent over the water bill. Hi, I live with my friend. It is her house and I pay a set monthly rent (,1000) to her that includes utilities. My lease states that any increases are on a monthly basis and due to a significnat increases in utilities. My roommate approached me and states that the water bill is much higher then she expected due to having to water her lawn ( i guess she didnt realize how much it would cost her to keep up her yard). She wants to charge me about $100-200 more per month because of this. I dont really think that is fair. Please help. Thanks

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  60. August 17, 2008 at 11:56 am, Guest said:

    It seems to me an equitable split is $350 each for the two smaller rooms and $400 for the master.

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  61. August 22, 2008 at 6:32 pm, Guest said:

    I think 60/40 is good. I’m in the same situation. I live with my sister and her husband. I don’t think I should pay half nor do I think we should split it 3 ways. They will share a room but even in that, they have more stuff. They have the bigger room which is the nicer room.

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  62. August 26, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Guest said:

    Hello! I have a stressful situation here. I am moving in to a 3br/2ba house. The master bedroom is double the size than any of the 2 other rooms and has its private bathroom with lots of space. The second largest room is just a few inches bigger than the smaller one, and they both have to share a bathroom. It has been stated/suggested that the master bedroom will pay 50 dolls more than the second largest br and the second largest bedroom will pay 30 dlls more than the smaller one. Am I making sense? Rent is 2,000 total. I see some unfairness in this deal and I really need help on how to solve it! PLEASE help me with your best advice! Thanks in advance!

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  63. August 30, 2008 at 11:58 am, Guest said:

    Respectfully, you should move past your jealousy regarding the tenant’s monthly cost of rent. While we would all love to pay nothing in rent, he’s not cheating you in any way. If you agreed to $300 a month (and assuming that by allowing 4 roommates he is not creating an illegal over-occupancy) and at the time you decided that that price was reasonable to pay for what you were to receive (i.e. right to occupy that particular apartment), knowledge of the total rent changes nothing; the price is still fair. The only change is your feelings of resentment, but as you voluntarily entered into the contract, he has done no wrong against you.

    Similarly, your ultimate landlord may have paid off the mortgage on the property, so he also pays nothing. It would be unreasonable to assume that he should rent to the tenant at-cost. He’s not running a charity — the end result of such a policy would be to remove apartments from the market.

    Best,
    C

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  64. September 01, 2008 at 9:12 pm, Guest said:

    Three 18 yr olds living in a two bedroom apt. Both bedrooms are identical with a living room, dining room and kitchen inbetween. I am a college student, the other two are working. The two working girls insisted on sharing a room. That left me to myself in my room until we find another roommate. I did not insist on having my own room but I offered to pay $625/mo & they would pay $550 each = $1725/mo. Fair? They are now trying to change the plan and they think I should pay $650 & they pay $537.50 ea. which is what they gave me to pay our first month’s rent. Please advise!

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  65. September 05, 2008 at 2:57 pm, Guest said:

    Umm it is his right. If he has been paying half the rent and his room is smaller then it is not unreasonable for him to want to use the big room for half the time he is there. Just because someone has ‘been there longer’ doesn’t mean anything. Bigger room = Bigger price. End of story. Only children feel entitled because they have ‘been there longer’ so, grow up.

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  66. October 11, 2008 at 1:49 pm, Guest said:

    I’m 21 years old. I live with 2 18 year olds. Well, it started off with just one 18 year old, who happends to be my best friends’ brother. He met a girl and moved her in. For a while she didnt have a job, and I became very IRATE so I told her to get a job or leave. Well, she got a job, you would think problem solved. No! Both of them have no sense of keeping the place clean. I’ve sat both of them down and explained to them how I like a clean house! After repeating myself on different occasions, you would think it would sink in..well, I didn’t. Let me share with you some things they do: Leave wet towels in the bathroom floor for WEEKS, Leave piles of dishes in the sink for WEEKS, not to even mention I have a sink AND a dishwasher, the girl shaves her legs and leaves the hairs in the tub!! Now the whole point of moving my best friends’s brother in with me BEFORE he got hooked up with his girl was to help him understand how it is being on your own paying bills..etc. Well, this teaching is become a bit OLD and I dont want to kick him and his girl out..but it seems like EVERYDAY its the same thing. I work 12 hour swing shifts..when I get home I have to clean and cook! I’ve had enough..what should I do?

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  67. October 12, 2008 at 12:20 am, Guest said:

    my wife brought her cousin over and she caused us too fight not physical but virbal.

    when I asked her cousin to leave she told me no What can I do, she is not on the lease and she has been here 2 days I wnat to call the cops and have her removed can I do that

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  68. October 21, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Guest said:

    Call the cops and in their presence say she is trespassing and you want her to leave. They will charge her with trespassing.

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  69. October 31, 2008 at 10:39 pm, Guest said:

    I wanted to see if I could get a straight answer. I live in Kentucky — leased an apartment 1 1/2 months ago with my best friend-it was their idea for us to move out of our parents houses- both our names are on the lease — came home last week and my “best” friend had skipped out on me!! At first my “friend” said they would pay their part of the lease for the rest of the 1 year term because signed the lease. Then said friend wanted to move a complete stranger in with me to take over their part of the rent. Our landlord gave an emphatic NO on this and told the “friend” roommate that they are responsible for their part of the rent because their name is on the lease. Landlord went so far as to tell the former roommate thay did not want to get in a legal battle over their portion of the rent. Now the former friend/roommate is angry because the landlord said no to sublet (and honestly I don’t want a stranger moving in) and is saying they will not pay any rent at all. The former roommate even went so far as to say that they only have to give me 3 months to find a new roommate then not responsible anymore at all. My landlord said this is not true and they are responsible no matter what. I can’t afford all the rent by myself and I don’t have any friends that need a place to live right now — most have their own place or live with parents and don’t want to move out. Any comments on this? Has anyone out there been through this?

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  70. November 01, 2008 at 5:30 pm, Guest said:

    My bestfriend ask me if I would get an apartment with her. We both lived at home at the time. I did that and now it is 1 month later and I come in from work and she has moved out and moved back home– I like to have never got her to even answer a text message I sent that day. When she did she gave no reason just said she would pay her part since her name was on the lease. Not a word, not a phone call, no explanation, nothing at all about moving out. Both our names are on the 12 month lease. She at first said she would pay her part, then wanted me to let a complete stranger she works with move in ( I said no but the owner said ABSOLUTELY NO) and the she got mad and said now she he won’t pay anything. She tried telling me that she only had to give me 3 months, legally, to find a new roommate. The owner told her that isn’t true and she is responsible for her portion of the rent for the remainder of the lease. Anyone else out there had this happen?

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  71. November 13, 2008 at 9:51 am, Guest said:

    I’m currently living in a 4 bedroom 2 bath with 4 other girls. My name is on the contract as well as 3 other girls. 1 girl moved in 2 months into the 1 year lease. Currently, we are splitting the rent 5 ways although we started out splitting it 4 ways. I plan to move out at the end of November. This will leave them splitting the rent 4 ways, as originally planned. However, 1 of the girls also plans to move out in February and it was assumed that the girl who moved in late would be “taking her place” for the last 6 months of the rent. When I move out they will have 3 months to find another renter to take my place. Am I responsible for finding a person to take my place even though I’m not changing the rental fee from the original lease? (at least it won’t change until 3 months after i leave)

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  72. November 24, 2008 at 6:07 pm, Guest said:

    Please advise –

    Myself, my wife, and our 11 year old son rent in a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom triplex.

    One of our long-time friends, (mainly my wife’s friend, though she loves to refer to my wife and I as her “family”) constantly moves in with us. She has moved in with us off and on for 3 years. This last stint has lasted this last full year now, 12 straight months. It is because she continues to have problems with her marriage, but refuses to divorce her husband because of her retarded belief that God hates Divorce, yet doesn’t mind if you are seperated…just don’t divorce.

    My wife feels it is her duty as a strong Christian to let her in and not turn her away. I feel that we are being taken advantage of. For a long time, she never paid any rent, or very little. That has changed as time has gone on, she is now up to paying $200 a month, but never on time and usually finds some way to “make up” for half-payments and other missing amounts (watching the kid for us, cooking dinners, etc).

    This woman is living in our LIVING ROOM, our kid has his own room and so do we.

    First – We pay $975 rent, $300-$500 utilities a month, $100 for cable tv and internet – all of which she uses…but just pays $200 a month.

    She can’t hold a job, because she is selfish and opinionated and argumentative, and gets fired. She can’t afford her own place either, she is on disability from siezures she had like a decade ago, and basically could be off of it easy but likes the free cheese…but of course she claims that the government simply “will never let you (anybody) off of disability for specific things, such as seizures, your entire life…because they could come back at any time and you could injure someone or something if you were driving a vehicle, etc…yet, she has her license and drives…how does that argument work again?

    Anyhow, her credit is supposedly such that she has difficulty finding her own place, but in reality I feel she could have gotten one but simply does not want to pay the rent. She saves NOTHING, she spends every dime. A laptop, CD’s, clothes, tons of haircare and other primpy girly products, is obsessed with taking pictures of herself and doing her myspace up and talking about herself constantly. She LOVES getting her check and having like $300 free to blow on herself on anything she wants every month, because she only has to pay us $200 rent, and in my opioning THAT is why she “hasn’t been able” to find another place.

    She has family she could turn to, but she doesn’t LIKE her father, she doesn’t want to be near him because the people he hangs out with are alcoholics, and even though he isn’t violent, she doesn’t want to move with him because she “hates alcohol”. She has another long-time friend that offered to take her and she toyed with the idea for awhile, but that friend is a Wican, and so she (our roommate) claims that it would be “against her religion” to move in with her(yet being her friend for years and hanging out with her were/are OK?).

    She keeps claiming to be searching for a way out “on her own”, but time-after-time people let her down mysteriously at the very last second.

    I really feel we are being taken advantage of. We have no privacy in our own house, she is loud an opinionated, she is super self-important and every conversation has to revolve around her and her viewpoints. She is home basically all of the time when we are, except for church on wednesday and sundays. And to top it all off, she is kind of hot looking, and so there is a strange sexual tension between her and I, well, at least from my side of things…Even though I try my best to avoid thinking about it, the fact remains – I’m a man – I think about it. Especially because she lays on the floor constantly right next to where I sit at my computer…my primal man knows there is a hot woman just a foot from me, laying on the ground. I feel that her living with us is straining our marriage, and I want her out of the house, but my wife will have none of it.

    First question – is $200 fair for everything?

    Second question – she isn’t on the lease, can I just kick her out, legally? I have been told that the cops wont let you throw someone onto the streets, that it will have to go through courts, etc, even if they aren’t on the lease, here in California, is that true?

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  73. December 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm, Guest said:

    This lady seems to use the word “religion” whenever it’s convenient for her. If you’re up to it, start calling her on a few things: drink a beer right in front of her (if you don’t drink, buy a six pack of brown bottles, empty them out, and fill them back up with iced tea).

    Another thing: have you expressed your concerns to your wife, specifically mentioning that you feel it’s putting a strain on your marriage? Ultimatums are almost never the best way to go, but after 12 months of this free-loader it’s looking like your only option.

    As for the 200 bucks: definitely not fair. This lady acts like she is doing your family a favor: “Oh I watched the kids today,” or “Oh, I cleaned dishes three times last week!” Fact is, doing some dishes and watching your kids every once in a while is the LEAST she can do.

    Point blank: she is definitely taking advantage of your wife’s kindness.

    She should be paying at least a third of the rent/utilities. At least. And she also should be given a date she has to move out by: I’d give her until the end of the month, but you should talk it over with your wife: maybe she can agree on three months?

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  74. December 29, 2008 at 1:34 pm, Guest said:

    In my apt, we have this dining room off to the side of the first floor that no one ever used; originally we were going to make it into a “study” but that never happened.

    So when a buddy of ours needed a place to move in, it seemed like a good idea to let him move into that room (it has three walls with a big bookshelf as its fourth).

    Little did we know that we were getting approximately two new roommates… Whenever his girlfriend sleeps over and he goes to work the next morning, the girl lingers around for the day! All I want to say is, “Leave already! This place isn’t a lodge.” It gets awkward and it feels like the privacy of the apartment becomes nil whenever she sticks around.

    Is this petty? Or should I bring it up to him?

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  75. January 10, 2009 at 4:34 am, Guest said:

    Hi,

    My husband & I are currently dealing with an issue about how to split the rent. Ok so here is the 411…This past december (the 26th) to be exact we currently signed a lease with another couple to move into a 3br/2ba house with the condition that my sister is able to move in as well beginning Feb. So for Dec & Jan we have split the rent (which is 1850 total) in half which I feel is reasonable considering there is four of us and we’re both couples….Now here is the issue…when my sister moves in Feb, the other couple wants to then split the rent 3 ways whereas my husband and I feel the fairest way is to split the rent 5 ways because my sister is just herself where as the couples have dual income and should one person have to pay the same as two?…we have brought this up to our roomates but they keep insisting that it should be split on the number of rooms…but that doesn’t make sense to me because if 3 people were to live in a 5 br house they wouldn’t split it 5 ways right?…wouldn’t they split it 3?…or base it on the size or shape of the rooms they choose?….please let me know what you think? should it be 5 or 3?

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  76. January 14, 2009 at 8:41 am, Guest said:

    I need help/opinions on how my roommates and I should split our rent. Myself my roommate and her boyfriend currently are renting a 4 bed 2 1/2 bath house. The total rent is $1000.00. I have the master, while they obviously share a room since they are boyfriend and girlfriend. My idea is that I should pay 400 since i have the master and they each pay 300, which would mean i would be paying 100 more than each of them for the master. They seem to think we should do it 500/500 because of the fact they share a room. That would mean i would be paying 500 while they get to pay 250 each. I see it as we share THE HOUSE regardless if yall choose to share a room. PLEASE HELP. This is causing so many headaches!

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  77. January 22, 2009 at 1:50 pm, Guest said:

    I completely dissagree with your roommates.. I have lived in 3 different apartments/ townhomes with my boyfriend and another person. My boyfriend and I share a room while his friend has his own room. We all pay equal rent.. I think since you have the master 400 for you and 300 each for them is fair, do not let them scam you by making you pay 500 and them only 250 a piece ( crappy friends to even suggest that).. the room is for sleeping they live and pay for the house.. If they won’t drop the issue tell them they don’t have to share a room.

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  78. January 22, 2009 at 10:08 pm, Guest said:

    I’m sorry but the way you calculate rent does not make sense to me at all. I believe that rent should be split according to the number of rooms. For your apartment of 1000, 2 rooms means 500 each. And the person who took up the master bedroom should pay slighty more.

    Utilities bill should however be split by the number of ppl living in the household.

    For example: When an agency try to rent out an apartment, obviously, they wouldn’t double the rent or halve the rent juz because it’s 1 person or 2 person.

    Obviously, you don’t see eye to eye with your friend. And i think the best solution not to live together.

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  79. January 22, 2009 at 10:32 pm, Guest said:

    I thought it is weird the way your husband would like to split the rent. I’ve been renting with others for the past 10 years and never before has encounter an issue like this as it’s usually very straight forward.

    This is how i would think:

    I agree with if 3 ppl were to live in a 5br, they would split it 3 as they occupy the same space. The other 2 empty rooms could be used as leisure room etc which all 3 have equal access.

    But when 5 live in a 3 bedroom apt, i would split it into 3. Say, the one who have the master bedroom pays abit more. Or if someone gets a much smaller room pays abit lesser. But it’s the space they occupy.

    Obviously, it’s always nicer to have lesser ppl in an apt, more privacy etc. So since your sister have to share an apt between 5, she cld say, pay 50-100 lesser for having the inconvenience of having so many ppl ard. But to go as far as spliting it into 5, in my opinion, would be too much. If your sister is occupying the same room size as the other 2 couples(including you and your husband), why should she be paying so much lesser. At the end of the day, she have a bed all to herself while you and the others not.

    The location, furnishing, SIZE, etc, of an apartment would affect the rent, but not the number of tenants. The landlord or agency would insist a max number of ppl who could live in a household but not double or halve the rent according to the number of ppl. At most, they would add an insignificant increase to the rent if there is an additional ppl base on the fact that with one more person, the wear and tear would increase. If you get my idea.

    Still, it’s juz my thoughts. Obviously, there are ppl who think differently like the above.

    Cheers. =)

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  80. January 22, 2009 at 10:35 pm, Guest said:

    Btw, and to add on to my previous comment, i would insist on splitting the utility bills and all other bills into 5 thou.

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  81. January 22, 2009 at 10:48 pm, Guest said:

    Gosh! I can’t believe that you tolerate it for such a looong time. She is totally so taking advantage.

    $200 is definately not fair. That barelys cover her share of the bills not to mention any rent at all. While she may argue that it’s the living room she is occupying, it is definately not causing so much inconvenience. And 12 months is far too long to find herself a place.

    I can’t help you with the legal question thou as i know nothing about it but that is probably the least of your problems. I think what is keeping you from kicking her out if your wife. And as you say, she will have none of it.

    What about helping her to find a place? Maybe you might have to help her with the deposit but that’s definately far lesser to what she is taking advantage of.

    Good luck. =)

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  82. May 19, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Nikki said:

    My roommate and I are Co-tenants on a lease together until the end of August, but she wants to sublet her room out for the summer, am I allowed to refuse this?

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  83. June 22, 2009 at 6:34 pm, guest said:

    My roommate and I signed a 12 month lease which ends at the end of the month. In this time we have split the rent and utilities equally, even though her boyfriend is here frequently (one month for at least ten days and another month for almost 3 weeks, plus at least 2 weekends a month). I have had overnight guests for maybe 5 nights out of the time we’ve been here. Now we are both moving out. I am moving at the end of the month, and she chose to move out two weeks early. She never mentioned the utilities for the month (I have always been responsible for making sure they are paid) and then leaves a note saying that she feels she should only pay 1/3 of the utilities for the final month. I say because she paid her full portion of the rent, she should be responsible for her share of the bills too. I feel it is only fair for her to stick to our original agreement since she did not discuss it with me prior to leaving, just left a note as she was moving her stuff out. I should also note that she was moving into her boyfriend’s place, and did not have a job, school, or practical reason to move two weeks early.
    Am I wrong to think we should split the utilities as we have done for the past year?

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  84. December 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm, Nadia said:

    Hello everyone. So I lived with two girls for two years, them sharing one bedroom and me having the other. We agreed in the beginning that I would pay more for my room because it was a single. I could not afford my rent for the last month we were there so that amount was subtracted from the security deposit. When we moved out, they both just left and never cleaned anything but I cleaned the entire apartment so they would get their share (I already had mine from my lack of one month rent). We got charged for a few additional things that they broke while we were there. Now they want me to pay them money because I “received more money” from the deposit than they did. I refused and they are threatening to sue me. Can they legally do this? Also, because we never wrote out a contract for splitting the rent (and it should have been split evenly three ways) I ended up paying $4600 more than they did in the two years we were there. Is there any way I can take them to court to get this money back?

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  85. January 07, 2010 at 9:32 pm, Nicole said:

    Any advice welcome–

    This is my first time out ‘on my own’, and I’m in a bit of a pickle here. This past November I moved in with my friend. As my credit history isn’t the best, we decided that my friend’s name would be the only one on the lease. There was also the agreement that rent and utilities would be split evenly among the *two* of us. She assured me that since I was paying half the rent, I would have equal decision power regarding anything having to do with the apartment. Silly me for not having gotten an agreement in writing! But onward. I also understood that my roommate would be getting married soon, and after the blessed event (and not a moment sooner, lol), her husband would be moving in and then the rent would be split into thirds. Following me so far? Just us two girls, paying our fair shares until the marriage, then rent hacked into three segments.

    However! My roommate moved her fiance (no, they are not married yet) in, and never once said a mumbling word of her intent to me about it (though if she had, I wouldn’t’ve freaked out about it–I’d’ve insisted that he help pay rent, though!). He–to me at least–basically showed up at the apartment the same time my roommate and I did and never went home…when he had a home to go to (he was living with a friend we all had in common)…and before I knew it was living with us permanently. My friend had more or less moved him in under my nose. So here we’ve been, the THREE of us, living in the apartment. But my roommate is content to come to me at the end of the month with her hand stuck out for half the rent, despite the fact that there are three people eating the food and using up the utilities, OR that her fiance hasn’t paid a red cent for rent, utilities, or much, if anything, in the way of food or household necessities. I talked to my roommate about that. According to the both of them, he is ‘looking for a job and intends to contribute’…eventually, I guess. As far as I know, ‘eventually’ is in November when the lease is up.

    The problem gets a bit thornier. The fiance has a two year-old son, of whom he and my roommate are attempting to gain custody. I’d been aware of that situation, so his coming to live with us would be of no surprise to me. Here it comes, that HOWEVER, I found out a couple weeks ago VIA TEXT that my roommate was pregnant–in fact, nearing the end of her first trimester. So once again, I was completely left in the dark.

    I entered this agreement my friend expecting the arrangement we initially spoke of (just the two of us, splitting the expenses in half, I have equal decision-making power) to be mutually beneficial, but I have more or less gotten the raw end of this whole deal. The only ones who have benefitted have been my roommate and her fiance. They’ve essentially had their cake and eaten it too from the get: the two of them get to shack up, the fiance all without paying for a thing; I’m the third wheel across the hall still holding the bag for half the rent; and to round out this whole ordeal, I’m two kids away from becoming a FIFTH wheel. I did NOT agree to these living arrangements, and had I known my roommate had intended to move in her man without having him pay for anything or that she was expecting a kid, I certainly would have thought twice about rooming with her.

    This clearly isn’t the best situation to remain in. Besides footing a share of the rent disproportionate the number of people living in the apartment, I believe that it would be practical for me to leave because the expecting parents will need the space for the kids. And life with a newborn? No, thanks. I want to move out–schnell!–and am hunting for a new apartment and possibly a new roommate. Am I locked into the lease despite never having signed it? I *was* listed as an occupant, so the landlord knows I’m living there. I also put up the security deposit and pet deposit in full. I have a feeling I’m screwed out of that because my name isn’t on the lease. Sigh. Also, I’m mulling over how to break the news to my friend as diplomatically as possible (I love her to death, and I DO like her fiance…I’m just not at all happy he’s been living with us without paying a dime. And I’m venting, too). I’m not one to burn bridges.

    Quite the sticky wicket, don’t you agree?

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  86. March 11, 2010 at 7:06 pm, Guest said:

    Please give me some advice.

    I live in a 3 bedroom house. The top floor is a flat (fit for two). There is one girl living there, though. The second room is the “old master” bedroom. It has a walk in closet– but otherwise is relatively same size to mine (although a bit bigger in size).

    The third room “the new master” is mine. It was the smallest room– and since I signed in to live with these two girls late in the game, I was left with the smallest room. The reason why it is the “new master” is because over the summer, the management company/landlord unexpectedly installed a makeshift bathroom (toilet, stand-up shower, and sink) to the room by taking out half of my closet and the kitchen’s small dining nook.

    Since we all agreed that I would have the small room before the remodeling, I kept the small room; now a room with a personal bathroom. We also agreed that since I am a boy, I would use my own bathroom.

    The two girls would use the main bathroom (with bathtub, sink, toilet). Two weeks ago, they discovered the toilet wasn’t flushing. I was really too busy to pay any attention to it. They ended up calling our management company. We have a management company as our Liaison because our landlord lives out of state.

    The company also contractually pays for ALL repairs, if it is natural, meaning NOT due to resident’s acts. For example: 1) a clogged sink with our hair = we pay. 2) A broken pipe = the company pays.

    Well, it turns out the toilet wasn’t really malfunctioning. After a day, they were able to use it fine and it worked properly. The thing is: they failed to call the company to cancel the plumber coming out to fix it– even though it didn’t need fixing. After the plumber came out, determined that nothing was “broken,” and left, the company billed us for the trip.

    Although it’s only a $100.00 bill, my housemates are suggesting that we split the bill 3 ways = $33 each. I don’t use that restroom and truthfully, I feel it was their fault for calling and not canceling: Pretty much making ‘much ado about nothing.’

    I really don’t want to pay. It’s not the about the amount, because truthfully, although I’m a poor college student, $30.00 isn’t a make-or-break-it amount… The discrepancy is that I simply don’t think I should pay! It’s their problem… Isn’t it?…

    A part of me doesn’t want to pay because it’s legitimately their fault for not canceling when they found out the toilet worked and a part of me just wants to pay to get it over with. I mean, if I don’t pay there would be tension in the house. Also, looking at it in their shoes, if my bathroom were to break down, and we were billed for the charge, I’d like for them to split the bill too (although I doubt that they will).

    Also, I forgot to mention that my housemates are as stingy as can be (SUPER STINGY)! They didn’t allow me to turn on the heat until NOVEMBER, even though I said I was cold. Their excuse was that they didn’t want the bill to be too high. WTF! Also, when we finally needed the heat in November when it was un-bearably cold, it wasn’t working (because we hadn’t tested it to make sure it was). It took twice as long to fix (the company DID pay for it) and during that time, I caught the cold/flu because we didn’t have heat.

    Needless to say, there is already animosity in our house.

    What should I do?

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  87. August 16, 2010 at 2:01 pm, samantha said:

    Ok I REALLY need input on this scenario.

    My fiance and I bought our first home. We have a mortgage payment every month. In order to secure the home, we had to pay a $4200 down payment which required a bank loan. Now we pay off the bank loan with monthly payments.

    We recently let a friend move in as a roommate, we split all bills equally 3 ways.

    Here is my question. Since we are technically making monthly payments on the down payment for the home, should the roommate pay a 1/3 of this bill also?

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  88. October 03, 2010 at 9:56 pm, Stephen Chilafoe Sr said:

    You have a roommate (either in school or your apartment) who has a problem with stealing. She/he has taken three computers from his/her employer.
    Best buy, and has sold them to support his/her drug habit.
    what is the ethical point of view in this situation?

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  89. October 04, 2010 at 8:06 pm, Mary said:

    Need to know.
    My roommate is on the least, but I’m not. Recently she raised my rent $50 a month. She said the landlord raised the rent. I found out from the landlord that the rent was not raised.
    In fact that she was behind by $400. So I’m I responsible to help pay the share that she couldn’t pay? Does she have the right to raise my share of rent because she can not manage her money?

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  90. December 22, 2010 at 11:40 am, HUSKRLAND65 said:

    I have a situation, where I moved into a house, with 4 other people, and I moved in about 2 months after everyone else, so when I moved in the utilities were already set up in my roomates name. I since moving in have started to hangout/date one of my roomates ex girlfriends, and he seems to not like this so much. He who has the cable/internet in his name, has blocked my access to both, told me if I didn’t want to pay I didn’t have to. The situation is that I would love to pay for it, since I love to use it, but he still denies me access. do I have any rights involving equal use of utilities, I have payed the last 3 months in a row and all the sudden this. And I wouldn’t even mind getting a seperate account and paying the full price myself, but the cable company won’t open 2 accounts at the same adress, so im kinda lost on what to do.

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  91. June 14, 2011 at 9:10 pm, Anonymous said:

    No there are no good roommate stories!

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  92. December 03, 2011 at 9:52 am, Anonymous said:

    2bedroom(master, guest), usually we split the rent but she has the bigger room and her brother has moved into the living room. My space is limited to the smaller room plus the kitchen. What should be the arrangement on rent? I do usually have a guest who shares my space as well.

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  93. December 31, 2011 at 4:31 pm, Gemi said:

    I agree, there are few good roommate stories. I have had both.

    The Good:
    2008 – Lived with my sister in a two bedroom apartment. It was fantastic; as we are both super cleanly people and only ever argued about the temperature.

    2009 – Now
    Living with my boyfriend: Fantastic! Spouses/significant others can be the best roommates you will ever find. Unfortunately, we still have roommates.

    The Bad:

    Roomates: Disaster! First of all, Guy #1 was really cool. He payed his rent and was pretty much in sync with my boyfriend and I due to his cleanly nature and good personality. He was perfect, until he met some married girl and moved out with her. It was a sticky, drama filled situation. Unsurprisingly, they lasted about three or so months before he had to come back here. He’s moving out in a few months because he blew all of his savings on getting the apartment with married chick. I still don’t know how they are solving his rent issues with the apartment 4 doors down.

    Second notable guy is a disaster! I know getting a job is difficult; but he sits and plays games all day, destroys the kitchen somehow with just cooking for himself, and never cleans up after himself. He starts fights and treats me like a total bitch when I ask him to clean his dishes. Perhaps I do ask him incorrectly, but he gets pissed when I ‘nag’ and ignores me completely when I ask. He’s depressed and my boyfriend has made special note of it; but unfortunately I just want to kick out the freeloader who now does everything he can to upset me. Since he is on the lease, I can’t just kick him out; but the only saving grace is to speak to the landlord and try to get a Non-Paying Roommate out the door. However, my boyfriend does not want to hurt a friend. So very messy, I could only hope that the person leaves on his own.

    So yea, there are good and bad stories. I always tell myself; things have a good chance to get better after college.

    ~Gemi

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  94. January 24, 2012 at 12:47 am, Holly Sciortino said:

    My daughter is sharing an apartment with a “friend” since mid-August 2011 and their lease runs through July 2012. Before moving in they agreed they would share the master bedroom closet and share wardrobes as well. Her roommate got the larger bedroom (by default she ended up bringing a large bedroom set with her and it wouldn’t fit into smaller bedroom). Roommate also has a private powder room off master. My daughter’s bedroom is essentially the “kids” room of apartment. They were paying equal amounts rent $400 each. Is it fair/reasonable to expect roommate to pay a bit more since she has a larger bedroom and private bathroom also? Her roommate is refusing to pay any more rent even though the verbal agreement they had before moving in she backed out of and has now moved her furntiure from living room into her bedroom with the reasoning that she should now pay less rent. Please help!

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  95. January 24, 2012 at 12:48 am, Holly Sciortino said:

    They do NOT share the closet or wardrobes as originally planned since her roommate changed her mind on this.

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  96. January 31, 2012 at 9:24 pm, Guest said:

    Simple question (please answer asap):

    2bed2bath apartment: A couple and my self are under the lease.

    Is it fair to split all the bills 3 ways including the actual rent? (especially when they 1st agreed to split rent/bills 3 ways already?)

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  97. January 31, 2012 at 11:04 pm, Justin said:

    I have a roommate whom i moved in with a couple months ago. I wasn’t let in on a lot of his life until after, he’s a huge baby at 24 and his mom comes to pick him up every weekend/cooks for him/buys him food/ even drove him to get weed before he got his brand new scooter b/c he started crying. He is hardly here, even when he has class in a town his mom doesn’t live in. He refuses to be apart of the house aka pay internet, buy needs like garbage bags, do dishes etc. He was gone for a while b/c he had a “mental breakdown” and doesn’t think he should pay ulitities for the month he was away.

    What can I do about this headache of a roommate?
    I want to SHAKE HIM HELP?
    How are you supposed to live your life with such tension in the house? That’s no way to live. I can’t take it anymore!!!

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  98. March 09, 2012 at 12:44 am, dee said:

    I made the stupid mistake of inviting 3 (so called friends at the time) to move in my rented house share with me. They first were horrible demanding I shud give up my eroom and all shud be allocated newly.. Secondly they started moaning about things in kitchen, appliances clenliness (we were not unclean the were going mad over the muck that’s inder the fridge or round bak of microwave for god sake) then it started with bills myn and my old housemates names were on gas/elec internet tv and water. I put myn on gas/elec and the tv lisence. They sed they wud ring gas/elec n put theirs on too 5months later they never did. Also they started saying they were not paying the bill for the weeks they went home from uni sometimes up2 3 weeks! Was livid but nothin I cud do as I only1 in house! The internet was still in ex housemates name even after one of them sed shed sort it. Even the water bill one sed shed sort it..common sense change the account holders n pay the bill..nope the daft idiot paid the bill by automatic service and did not inform me she never changed the name 6months later we get a new water bill and I find out after the woman at water is sharp with me stating we shudnt hav paid bill in another persons name. I did my stupid housemate did! Then wen I told all 3 we had a prpb as thery wudnt discuss account wi me till it changed they all kicked off txt bully me sayin I shud of pretended I was my ex housemate and tht they take it I’m dealing with it all since I rang and that non of them want their name on the bill cos their moving out soon! I’m sorry but y shud I play mum they think cos I move in sep I shud hav it in my name. They also made snide comments about me strugglin to always pay bills on time but that was only recently cos I got made redundant! They r defo no friends of mine but I feel sik thinking about them and the arguements they try to cause. I don’t c y I shud hav my name on the water and I even sed I hav it on 3things n they still txt bak yeah but ur movin out last so u shud b on them all. Am I ryt to stand my ground they r just gunna keep buLlying me I am contacting the landlord but I doubt he’ll put it in his name or actually b helpful. But its completely unfair to dictate me me I shud hav it in my name..they just don’t want responsibility of a bill espesh wen one of em made the stupid act of payin it last year and not changing account holdersm I really cany wait to get outta this hell hole in 5months =(

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  99. November 04, 2012 at 6:52 pm, MD said:

    Help – moved into 3 bedroom apartment with 2 other college students. One student moved out after first month. They are looking to fill the room AND have found a “couple”. Should the “couple” pay slightly more rent then the other two? Say a 30%, 30%, 40% split and split utilities 4 ways? Please help they want me to sign addendum tomorrow.

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  100. November 19, 2012 at 9:41 pm, Guest 1 said:

    So I’ve managed to get myself into a situation I cannot seem to get out of. Currently me and 2 “friends” are renting a 3 bedroom apartment that has no living room. Both of my two room mates have large rooms and I’m living in the third that has become more of a living room than my actual room. The room is setup with a small “nook” that I’ve tried to section off with a curtain. This nook is probably about 1/3 the size of my room mates rooms… We are all unfortunately paying the same rent as the initial agreement would be that the living room/nook would be my room first and a living room second.

    As time has gone on my room has become the “hang out” spot of the house where everyone eats, drinks, smokes, and watches TV. Messes are left here and almost always inevitably cleaned up by me. I also never have any privacy meaning that school work has become significantly more difficult. I’ve brought this issue up with both of them but both seem to share the same opinion that the living room comes first which is undeniably unfair however it’s impossible to win a 2v1 argument. I brought up the idea of paying less rent but of course they have vetoed this as well because it is not in their favor.

    I’m currently wondering if there is any steps that are available to me in the state of MASS beyond discussing this with my roommates that could help me out. It’s come to a point where I simply do not want to live here anymore and am unable to sublet because no one in their right mind is going to pay 1/3 of the rent for a small nook barley big enough to fit a bed and a desk.

    Any advice would be wonderful, thank in advance.

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  101. January 20, 2013 at 3:51 am, Anonymous said:

    I live in two bedroom unfurnished apt shared by four girls. Two of us in one room selled our contracts to one girl who will be making the room into a private room. The two other roommates think the new girl should have to pay double in utilities since she bought two contracts. I can understand that they don’t want their utility bill to go up a little when they’re not changing anything, but at the same time… That’s life. It will only amount to about 3-6 dollars more for them per month– a lot smaller than the difference for her. Yes she bought two contracts, but utilities is based on usage. Doubled rent doesn’t mean doubled utilities right? We’ve discussed this as roommates but they refuse to change their position. It doesn’t seem ethical at all to me, yet they’re being quite stingey about it. Any advice?
    Ps Also they feel since we already have “a business relationship established” with this girl soon to be moving in, they think it’d be more appropriate for us to to tell her she’ll be expected to pay double in utilities. Seems like if it’s such an issue for them, they aught to address it with her personally when she starts living with them and paying the same utility bill. Shouldn’t we be out of that picture now that we’ve sold our contracts to her? It’s causing a lot of stress and tension around here.

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  102. December 17, 2013 at 8:01 pm, Nate said:

    Hey there, I just moved into a main floor of a house, and a month later new people moved into the basement suite, I had to pay a $425 deposit with direct energy and a $200 deposit for Enmax, should the deposit be split equally with the tenants downstairs? It seems unfair for me to have to come up with all this deposit money, also when we move out the deposit goes to the last months bills, so the deposit would pay for the last month bills of the upstairs and down.

    If we didn’t split the deposit and i just pad it all then when i move out I would end up paying for here last month’s share as well as mine.

    Should I ask them for 50% of the deposit? My lease states the utilities are to be spilt 5050.

    Shouldn’t that include the deposit fee’s?

    Thanks so much.

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  103. January 17, 2014 at 8:06 pm, Anon said:

    My situation is:

    My lessor leases out 2 bedroom apartments to university students only. Mid lease, my roommate moved back home and a new roommate was introduced to me. But she has a 5-6 year old child that will be moving in as well. Being that he only rents to college students, should this be acceptable on my part? I am 24, I do not want to live with a kid. The kid will be living with his mother in their bedroom, but he still will be using other parts of the house. Am I wrong to think that’s not fair? It would be different if I knew the child and his mother, but I don’t, at all. To be honest, I don’t think it is fair.

    Our leases are separate, my lease says 1 adult 0 kids in the premises. In the form he wrote, one bedroom above the word ‘premises’. Shouldn’t my new roommates’ lease be the same?

    Well anyways, the problem is: I am moving out because I don’t think it’s fair, and I don’t think I’ll be able to concentrate with a kid around. The problem is I would like my deposit back but they won’t allow that because of early termination. Do you think it’s fair?

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