Pets Not Accepted: Should You Sneak Your Cat or Dog In Anyway?

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Many landlords put strict limitations on the types of animals who can live in their apartments: some have a flat ‘no pets’ policy, while others are okay with animals who live in aquariums, or who are within certain weight limitations (e.g., dogs under 50 pounds).

But not all renters agree with such policies. Some are willing to do just about anything to bring their four-legged friends into their new homes.

Katie of Houston, Texas, has pretty strong feelings on the subject: “To me, it’s my right to bring whatever living thing I want into my apartment, and it’s also my responsibility to keep it clean. I’ll replace anything that my dog messes up, and they can take away my deposit if needed. It’s a risk I’m willing to take, because I feel it’s not ethical to tell someone what they can and can’t live with.”

What should you do if you find an otherwise-perfect apartment that doesn’t accept pets? Should you try to sneak your pet in, and hope your landlord (or nearby neighbor who isn’t too happy with you) just doesn’t figure it out?

If you do decide to sneak your pet in, you need to be prepared for the consequences of getting caught. Can you afford to lose your deposit? Can you afford to move if your landlord demands you move for breaking the lease? No matter how much you care for your pet, it’s worth your while to look for an apartment that does take pets if you can’t afford the consequences of getting caught.

Many pets are harder to keep hidden than you might expect. With a dog, for instance, you don’t just have to worry about sneaking it outside for walks–a landlord with allergies may figure out that your pet is present just by sneezing at the wrong time.

Depending on your landlord, however, you may be able to get permission to bring your pet into your apartment openly. If your pet is a fish, a lizard or even something like a hamster, many landlords can be persuaded to allow such animals–after all, damage from something that spends all day in a tank is minimal. You may have to promise to keep your pet in his or her tank at all times, but that’s about it.

With larger pets such as cats or dogs, landlords are generally more concerned about damage. You can offer a larger security deposit, or a separate pet deposit, but it can be difficult to persuade a landlord with a set ‘no pets’ policy.

Have you been in this situation before? Tell us how you handled it–if you were caught by your landlord, did you move, or did you decide to (sniff, sniff) give Spot away?

258 Responses to “Pets Not Accepted: Should You Sneak Your Cat or Dog In Anyway?”

  1. September 29, 2008 at 8:50 am, Guest said:

    Get a life, Live by the rules and you will be fine. Otherwise move out and get a place that will accept your four legged lover

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  2. September 29, 2008 at 11:08 am, Guest said:

    The only thing I hate about this stupid rule is that the apartments that allow pets tend to be a lot less nice than the ones who don’t. This may be because they don’t spend as much time or money on fixing the apartment between renters or whatever, but honestly…

    …I’d rather pay more, have a nice apartment, and keep my pet.

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  3. September 29, 2008 at 12:32 pm, Guest said:

    I worked for an apartment complex for many years. They inspect the apartments twice a year for pets. The amount is $700.00 and a letter you have 7 days to either pay or they will not accept your rent for the following month. Be careful before you bring your pet in.

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  4. September 30, 2008 at 9:07 am, Guest said:

    My apartments have breed limitations due to the insurance company that provides the coverage. They say “No dangerous breeds allowed”. If an aggressive animal harms another resident, the insurance company will not pay the claim and there may be legal trouble for the management of the apartments not to mention the media will get a hold of the story and that will hurt business. If you want to sneak an animal into your apartment to save on the pet deposit, remember that the management can enter your apartment if they have a need. Say the apartment below yours is flooding because a pipe in your unit broke. All they need is a reason to enter. They will find the animal and you will be fined or even evicted. Also, nosey neighbors will surely find out and report you to the office. I don’t think it’s fair to a dog or even a cat to be left alone in an 800 square foot box (or whatever the case may be) because the owner is at work for 8-10 hours. That’s just me.

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  5. September 30, 2008 at 10:07 am, Guest said:

    I have no problem with pet deposit fee. What bothers me is the new trend of paying a $10-$20 monthly fee to keep a pet in your apartment after you have paid the deposit fee. Since when does your pet have to pay rent too!

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  6. September 30, 2008 at 9:30 pm, Guest said:

    My girlfriend has 3 cats and we are preparing to move in together. Every place I’ve found that allows cats have a “2 cat limit.” It looks like we are going to end up in a Henderson-Webb Community. We are planning in writing that we have two cats on our application and hope that they don’t notice.

    I’ve never rented a managed apartment before so I have no idea how hard it is going to be to hide the 3rd cat. I hear from some people that maintenence guys do unscheduled, “routine utility checks”. Is it normal for them to enter your apartment when you are at work or not home? I would find that unacceptable even if I wasn’t try to hide something.

    Anyone been in this situation? Any advice on what to do, or how not to get caught?

    Has anyone been caught? What was the penalty?

    Any help is appriciated!

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  7. September 30, 2008 at 10:11 pm, Guest said:

    Well we have had our cat at our apt for over 4 yrs and just today we got a notice to move out or get rid of the cat. Tomorrow we are going to talk to the office about the policy for pets I don’t really know what we can do thats why I was checking on line.
    When I found this site I hope this goes well my son loves the cat and calls it his sister (just that he fells the cat is part of the family) well lets just hope one day they don’t want us to get rid of our kids to or pay a deposit for them.

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  8. October 01, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Guest said:

    I have found that many landlords will waive the no pet policy (for one cat) if you are really respectable tenants. Good tenants are hard to find!

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  9. October 01, 2008 at 9:00 pm, Guest said:

    I had to sneak in my half pit half lab in a condo community in AZ. They had “breed restrictions” and they flat out refused to let him stay even thoguh Id already sighned the lease and everything adn had told them about the puppy. So i ended up sneaking him in for 3 months. I worked in a warehouse so i was able to sneak him out in the morning with me to work before the landlords got to the office and back in at the end of the day after they were gone. My neighbors never said anything because they never knew he was restricted. so it worked out in my case no concsequances and i dont regret :)

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  10. October 01, 2008 at 9:58 pm, Guest said:

    If you get caught you could be evicted and charged additional fees. If you really want o have a pet find a pet community. If you love your pet you will find a place that takes pets. If you had a child and wanted to live in a community that takes only Seniors 55 or older would you hide your child? Thats not fair to the pet. Perhaps you should not have a pet.

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  11. October 02, 2008 at 12:22 am, Guest said:

    My landlord charges $40/month for my two neutered and declawed cats. Plus I paid a $250 pet deposit. That’s a lost of money each year- $480/year! Now, people moving out are being told that the $250 deposit is no longer refundable, as they have to shampoo the carpets (surely less than a $250 cost for the management company)- which is a state law for apts without pets.

    Seems totally unfair to me!

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  12. October 02, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Guest said:

    You signed a lease and it is up to you if you want to accept the consequences of trying to hide your pet. Most apt complexes will have monthly pest sprays or change your air filters. So they would be able to access your apt without notice.

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  13. October 02, 2008 at 12:48 pm, Guest said:

    I have to pay $25,00 a month pet fee for my cat. When I moved in I paid $200.00 pet deposit, half of which is refundable. I wouldn’t mind paying pet rent if other people had to pay kid rent. The people that sneak their cats, when caught and they will be should have to pay a really hefty penalty since it is not fair to those that are honest and pay.

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  14. October 02, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Guest said:

    I have lived in my apartment for like 3-4 years and I have had a cat all along, no problem right. Well my boyfriend and I just moved in together in my same complex just a bigger apartment,he got me a dog for my bday, and now they r saying that the new agreement is that thier are no pets allowed even tho people who have lived here when we were allowed too, still have their pets. They said I can keep my cat because she was here sense day one, but I cant keep my dog, is that legal? cause on the lease nowadays it says no pets at all, so what do I do?

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  15. October 02, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Guest said:

    I had four cats and lived in several apartments where I did not tell the property management or pay a pet deposit. I was never fined or asked to move out, even if the maintenance guys came to fix something and noticed the cats. Most of the apartments I lived in were so ghetto and nasty that people were much more concerned with drugs, shootings, stabbings, noise, and fires to worry about some illegal cats.

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  16. October 02, 2008 at 8:35 pm, Guest said:

    My apartment won’t accept my rent CLAIMING I have a pet. I have never even had a pet visit since living here (AZ) – they said maintenance ‘heard’ a dog barking in my apt when they were next door. They have no picture, no visual, just an alleged bark someone heard. They said maintenance told the office to tell the owner because they were worried about the pet – we NEVER received a call and office said they didn’t call because our lease showed no pet. We weren’t even notified until 2 full weeks after the alleged “hearing” incident. Please help!!!!!

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  17. October 02, 2008 at 9:02 pm, Guest said:

    i was in this situation kind of have 2 cats but they dont know, we are moving out anyways but the place here it is normal for them to enter your apartment when your not home but they give you notice of around the time and day they will be in your buildling, i think most places have inspections just to make sure your not trashing the place

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  18. October 03, 2008 at 2:24 am, Guest said:

    I would like to start out with, why are you asking this. But to say the least, you lack common sense! It’s Friday night, you have tickets to a concert with the one you love. And your boss tells you, you are now working late ( thus not allowing you to go to that concert )! Do you pull out a gun and kill your boss? True, you won’t be working late now; but is this how mature adults act. Of course not!
    So if you are still confused, NO you do not sneak in a pet.
    You are asking to live on someone elses property. And the owner has a right to expect certain requirements! Also your fellow tenants. So if you know you have or want a pet ask first. Consider the animal! It depends on you for food, water, playtime and if a dog;taking it out. And for so little, it gives you unconditional Love! There are many places that allow pets, make the time to find that place for both of you. And if by chance you are too stupid to follow society’s rules, buy a house! At least you can be an idiot a little longer, before having to answer for your actions.

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  19. October 03, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Guest said:

    Every apartment complex is different. Before you move in, ask questions regarding their pet policy. Also, obtain a copy of the lease before you rent. Some complex will give this to you, out of respect. In Florida, especially South Florida, they might waive the pet policy, to bring you in, if they are having a slow month. The slow months in Florida are Sept. – January. Hope this helps.

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  20. October 03, 2008 at 2:51 pm, Guest said:

    My problem is finding a place that will allow exotics. Almost all apartments are limited to dogs and cats or no pets at all. I have rabbits. They’re litter trained but generally are much better then cats or dogs. While they may chew, so do dogs (and in much larger quantities). And they smell far better than cats. (They’re herbivores and so their poop doesn’t smell at all.) They’re quiet, more so than dogs or cats, and their hair is easier to clean up after. And even better, they’re much smaller animals as a general whole and so if there’s an accident it’s in a much smaller quantity. (Plus rabbits are incapable of throwing up. They physically can’t do it.)

    But none of the apartments I know will allow my bunnies, or any exotic from what I can tell.

    So I’m going to be forced to take mine with me regardless of consequences. They’re chronically ill and you can’t give away or sell sick rabbits. (From my understanding it’s against the law.) But they’re not ill enough to put down. But they do require a whole lot of care and monitoring that no one else can really handle.

    So I’m sorta stuck in a bind that’s going to force me to sneak undeclared animals into the apartment. Thankfully, my roommate has a cat who’s coming with us and we’re going to get an apartment that accepts pets, pay the pet deposit, and I already own a carpet cleaner. So what more could management ask for?! :O

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  21. October 04, 2008 at 12:47 am, Guest said:

    Additional pet rent is unfair. Kids don’t pay rent and they’re much more messy and noisey than pets, especially when they live upstairs. Apartment should just require bigger deposit and tenants pay whatever damage actually caused by either pets or people. I just don’t understand the discrimnation against pets. You can easily find people messier than pets.

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  22. October 04, 2008 at 11:24 am, Guest said:

    I would say do NOT sneak your animal in. It is not worth the risk of you and your animal being thrown out on your rear. In my old apartment I had to pay $40/month extra for my two dogs, but had I tried to sneak them I certainly would have been caught (they entered the apartment a lot for maintenance). From the landlord’s perspective too, I can understand. At my pet apartment, even though I always picked up my dogs droppings, a lot of tenants didn’t, so the grass and sidewalk were literally COVERED in animal waste, you had to watch your every step. Also I’ve seen many apartments destroyed on the inside, with stained in cat/dog feces in the carpet, and the stench of cat urine you could smell from the hallway. Though I love my dogs, and don’t think they ever caused any trouble/damage, I can see why a landlord would not want to deal with those problems.
    I also don’t think it’s fair to the pet to have to be hidden, take the time to find a place where you can keep them legally.

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  23. October 05, 2008 at 1:03 am, Guest said:

    If the people of the world get any dummer we may as well just let the terrorists blow us all up, it would put us out of our misery…if you want to have a pet just wait till your lease is up! THEN MOVEsomewhere that allows them!Hey dum dum,if you don’t have a pet then you don’t have anything to worry about. Here’s a clue, they’re allowed to go in everyday to check if the dog is still there.LET THEM, so you can prove your case.

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  24. October 05, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Guest said:

    When being in this situation, which we have been in before, sometimes, depending on whether you are trying to rent an apartment from a “management company” versus a “private individual”, you can sometimes persuade them. With a management company, their set policies appear to be their set policies. When it comes to a private individual, present what type of pet you have to them. Show them a picture of your pet. Offer them over to your current residence so they can see the condition of where you currently live and even meet your pet. Offer a larger deposit (within reason). Some people I find are simply pet haters. They have had bad experiences in the past and will simply not change their mind. Others, especially if they like you when you meet them and are someone who has had their apartment available for a longer amount of time than they financially wanted to, will possibly be persuaded. Good luck.

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  25. October 05, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Guest said:

    Yes that is legal because you signed a new contract. You are lucky they are letting you keep the cat. I had a similiar situation, I always had a dog, we moved to a new apartment and they had gone pet free so they told me I could not have my dog. I fought it with corp office and got to keep the dog after I went to the press and they did a story on it. I spoke to a lawyer and it was legal.

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  26. October 05, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Guest said:

    I do have to say 82977 it is legal for them to not allow “new” pets on the property once the policy is changed. BTW, might I add that the managers are not at fault for this change. It is the Property manager’s decision and if he/she has seen that the damages are outweighing the pet deposit then they may change to the forbidden “NO PETS ALLOWED!” rule and have us all crying. Try talking to the landlord (depending on the landlord YOU have known for three years and what type he/she is) and see what you can do and if you can prove you are responsible enough. Otherwise, 2 choices: REhome one and keep the other, or find EVERYONE a new home where 2 pets are accepted. Hope this helps.

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  27. October 05, 2008 at 8:45 pm, Guest said:

    82960, I totally agree. My husband told me if I really wanted my puppy he would pay the deposit for him. I searched and searched and was ready to pay upwards of $250 just for a chiweenie, but Lo and Behold, I found a set of apartments that only asks $150!!! It is totally worth the search and the wait to find the right apartments and the right pet deposit. I went to a website and researched several different apartments who accepted pets, found the area I wanted to live in, and found a good deposit all-in-one. I really agree with not hiding your children too. That is a good comparison. Really brought it home for someone. Thanks again.

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  28. October 05, 2008 at 8:51 pm, Guest said:

    82958, I can say that I have had the same thing happen when I had a little dog we adopted from the streets in our apartments. She was the cutest, and before long she was ours. No one ever told on us either, and we were in income restricted/low income apartments that allowed NO PETS-no even fish or birds I don’t think. So I can see how this made you feel because it made us feel like part of the community that other people would not just rat us out due to hatred in their hearts when we really loved our little puppy. I regret doing it the wrong way, but I don’t regret the love we kept for her and we still have her almost 2 years later.

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  29. October 05, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Guest said:

    PUT ON THE BRAKES!! Did you pay a pet deposit? I would first go back and read you rental agreement, and find out if that is right for them to do, or better yet, take your copy of the agreement to them and if they say it is legal tell them to hand over your pet deposit right then and there. No pet, no pet deposit. Pet deposits and apartment deposits are two totally different things. I do not feel that is fair and neither do I think it is correct to do so. Usually when the policy changes, the renters with previous animals are allowed to keep them, but new renters are not allowed to bring in new ones. I hope this is resolved for you as I look at my baby as a member of our family as well.

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  30. October 05, 2008 at 9:03 pm, Guest said:

    82934, I do not think hiding one would be good although my hubby and I did for quite some time. When the management had the “big people” onsite doing inspections, we would take our dog somewhere with us in the car or something. It is hard though, because sometimes they may just pop in, and with cats they do not respond to “be queit” or “No” (usually). They do enter without letting you know they are coming and it can be a fine/eviction AND you have to get rid of the pet after paying the fine for having one (which is usually really steep). I would recommend speaking to your girlfriend about the cats, and usually two cats keep each other company greatly. I know I would be attached to all three as well. Talk to the management of some of the properties. Usually since cats are the quieter and the less messy, they will allow cats more “leeway”. I hope this helps and tell the girlfriend I am an avid animal lover so I understand the dilemma.

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  31. October 05, 2008 at 9:06 pm, Guest said:

    Straightforward, and right to the point. I agree. We want to do it right so we can keep him in a healthy environment so he can be happy and we can too. There are places that accept pets, but you have to be willing to pay the deposit and many people would rather just give them up. Try looking at Craigslist to see how many pets lose their place to live due to moving and cannot go with us. It is hard, but it is true.

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  32. October 06, 2008 at 5:36 am, Guest said:

    I’m sorry to hear that your pet rabbit is chronically sick. Is this rabbits in general or just because they are being cooped up in a cage? I hope you do take the rabbit out for long walks in the park.

    good luck.

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  33. October 06, 2008 at 8:40 am, Guest said:

    I currently live in an apartment with a no pet rule in place. When I first moved into the building, I owned a 15 yr old cat that I refused to part with. Upon meeting with the landlord, I was completely up front with him about the fact that I had a cat. I explained that she was older and very well trained and wouldn’t be a problem. He allowed me to bring her in. When I moved to a larger apartment I discovered that the building had mice and unfortunately my cat cannot move well enough to hunt anymore. I spoke to my landlord about getting another cat and he permitted it. No pet deposit required.

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  34. October 06, 2008 at 8:53 am, Guest said:

    I was surfing, saw your comment. I asked my manager about this. He said he saw no problem with rabbits, and in fact they probably would pose a smaller risk of annoying neighbors than a dog (they put a high emphasis on maintaining a clean quiet environment here) so the pet fee could be lower. I don’t know where you’re looking, but I love it here in Yucaipa, and this place is great. You might want to call them: (909) 797-3263.

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  35. October 06, 2008 at 9:04 am, Guest said:

    You’re right! Crappy places don’t enforce their policies. That’s why they’re crappy places. Crappy people who don’t think they have to honor their contracts end up living in crappy places. Best advice for people who want to sneak a pet in: find a crappy place for your family to live.

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  36. October 06, 2008 at 9:23 am, Guest said:

    Obviously you have never heard of Fair Housing. Children are a protected class! Not your pets, not your loser boyfriend with a felony, not your friends that smoke on the balcony and pitch their butts in the grass and certainly not your Rottweiler or Pittbull.

    Pet rent is for all you responsible pet owners who swear that you will pick up after your pet and that your dog is so laid back and not at all destructive.
    For the person earlier who said that they’re paying the rent there and they should be able to have any pet they wants, regardless of the rules….you are an idiot! If you really believe in your philosophy, I only hope that the pot heads that are moving next door don’t bother you with their drug dealing and loud music. I mean after all, you said if someone is paying the rent there they should be allowed to whatever they want. They’ll be responsible alright, responsible for all of the police calls, car break ins and other crimes on the property. Think a little before you decide you are qualified to go on and blog like you know what you are talking about.

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  37. October 06, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Guest said:

    I live in a building that allows cats and dogs, and charges $25.00-40.00 each, with restricitons on breeds. All the people that have pitbulls get letters from a vet saying they’re “staffordshire terriers”, which is BS. One bit a kid the other day, now they’re changing to no dogs at all.

    I do have two cats, but pet rent is ridiculous. I have to clean up after them, unlike a dog where you can leave it outside if your lazy. One of the lease conditions is that I have to shampoo the carpet when I move anyway, but my apartment doesn’t stink because my cats go in their box.

    I’ve never seen a cat do any damage to anything, mine scratched the carpet but I trained them to do it somewhere else, because I don’t want to look at bad carpet. I also had both of them in my last apartment, and realized maintenence doesn’t know who should and shouldn’t have pets, so they don’t really pay attention when they come in.

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  38. October 06, 2008 at 1:56 pm, Guest said:

    Someone mentioned routine, unscheduled maintenance checks– I’m pretty sure that’s illegal. Barring emergencies, management HAS to give you advance notice if they are to enter your apartment at all, even for eviction. (Fortunately, ’cause I hid my kitty in the closet and turned up the TV so the maintenance guy couldn’t hear.)

    In the future, I’ll pay. It’s honest, it circumvents all headaches, and most importantly, your pet is worth it. Think of just how much your pet gives you, basically, for free. All they ask is food and water– that’s a great deal. It’s the least you can do. Don’t be an irresponsible cheapskate.

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  39. October 06, 2008 at 3:42 pm, Guest said:

    Just a note on the non-refundable, based on where you are living there have been laws passed that do not allow apartment complexes to claim any deposit as non-refundable. If they claim they need to use the entire deposit for something they need to supply you with a receipt (and not just something they type up that says it took the entire thing, it needs to be an official receipt) showing the cost for the things they do. Of course this is all California Law, so I don’t know where you live but I would check.

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  40. October 06, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Guest said:

    #82934 Yet again I am speaking from California Law, so it may be different where you live, but usually landlords and management are not allowed to enter the apartment without 24 hour notice UNLESS they have a life-threatening reason to do so (I.E. They smell smoke or gas coming from your apartment)

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  41. October 06, 2008 at 5:30 pm, Guest said:

    82934- First you need to read your lease and find out if there is a clause that allows them to enter your apartment without notice (most of the time there isn’t).But here in colorado by law the managment company has to provide the tendent with 24 hours notice before entering the apartment.Look up your state rental laws and re examine you lease. Find the loophole so you can hide your pet if need be.

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  42. October 06, 2008 at 5:50 pm, Guest said:

    As a property manager, I understand why there are additional fees for pets. Pets can cause thousands of dollars in damages, both in and out of your unit. Ammonia and feces are health issues and new Warrant of Habitability Laws are stricter than ever for Landlords. People must remember, the apartment they are living in is not theirs. It is owned by someone else, who is responsable for the apartment while you live there and after you move out. It is like living with your parents, while under my roof, my rules. If you don’t like it move out. It pays to research communities for their pet policies, fees, etc before you move in or decide to take in a new pet. And you may find some with great amenities, dog wash, on site pet sitter, treats in the office.
    An eviction on your public record is costly and permanently damages your credit and rental history. Most apartments will not rent to someone who has an eviction or collection from an apartment on their record forever or many many years after the fact.

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  43. October 06, 2008 at 7:41 pm, Guest said:

    I was in a situation just like this a while back. I was actually gifted 2 animals from a rescue, so that put me in motion to find a new place to live. My friend and I shuffled them back and forth on a weekly basis until I could find a place. Keep in mind, these animals were 5 pounds TOTAL COMBINED WEIGHT and totally house trained. I had no issue with the policy…if the management company would MAKE up their minds on the policy! When I moved in 8 years earlier, I was told no pets, but I saw CATS in at least 5 windows. I asked the question and was told the tenants were ‘grandfathered’ and could have them. Fair enough. 3 years later, I asked about the pet policy again because I saw a few small dogs around, again I was told no. I didn’t report the other folks because I didn’t want to upset anyone. Was I wrong, probably, but I figured they saw what I was seeing and said screw it. 1 year before I moved, I asked again, I was told no. That is when I was gifted with the 2 animals. I asked one more time and was told, ‘oh, you can’t have 2 pets,you can only have 1.” I asked when did this rule change and why wasn’t it posted. No valid response, a lot of double talk an blaming it on the management company. By this time I was done and started to look for a new place. I called the management company directly and got the policy from them for my home. Saved me A LOT of heartache. Do I believe in sneaking your pet in? No, but for all of the self-rightous hardliners out there, consider the circumstances of some folks. Not everyone does it in spite of the rules…sometimes the rules aren’t set clear.

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  44. October 08, 2008 at 1:28 am, Guest said:

    dummer? I don’t believe that’s a word :(

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  45. October 08, 2008 at 11:21 am, Guest said:

    I am a property manager at a community that does not allow dogs and up to two cats. This information is presented at the time you come in to inquire about moving here. It is also on all of our internet sites. As a pet owner or soon to be pet owner, it is YOUR responsability to research communities on their policies. If you choose to sign a lease, you are agreeing to their pet rules. People do not realize that pets cause a lot of damage, usually more than the people themselves.
    The apartment you live in is not yours, it is the property owners. This allows them to allow or dis-allow pets and determine what fees they want to charge. It is similar to living with your parents, their house, their rules.
    If you violate the terms of your lease contract, the landlord has a right to demand compliance or possession. Including filing for eviction. This stays on your public record FOREVER, in some states. It is also very costly. It can include rent, notice fees, paying out the remainder of the lease, damages, legal fees, etc.

    It is YOUR job to find one that meets you and your pets needs. As for exotics, a lot of cities/counties have restrictions and ordinances barring these kinds of animals. Most communities do not regulate small caged animals, other than the number. Which is again regulated by cities.

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  46. October 08, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Guest said:

    We had a huge dilemma when we moved from NC to Philadelphia. We found very few apartments that allowed pets and most were in areas that I wouldn’t have felt safe in myself. We were about to live in an apartment that charged one month (over 1000 bucks) pet deposit plus 75 a month fee. (talk about unreasonable) but this is pretty common up here. Last minute, we found a house for rent that we convinced the landlord to allow us to bring our pets without charge. It is much easier to find a landlord rather than an apartment company because they are able to smudge on the rules a little. Its not a good idea and is pretty selfish to move to a community that doesn’t allow pets. Perhaps there are people there that are deathly allergic or afraid of cats or dogs or whatever. Your neighbors have the right to live in a pet free community. I love my animals and would have probably been on the street before giving them away, but don’t break the rules, they are there for a reason. Its just something you have to deal with when you rent and have pets. If you don’t like it, buy your own property.

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  47. October 09, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Guest said:

    I have a very similar situation – I am currently living with 3 roomates in a no-pets-allowed apartment and I have 2 rabbits (one who is semi paralyzed with limited use of her back legs). I have had these rabbits for years and when forced to move to this new apartment due to financial circumstances and get roommates, the rabbits were coming, no matter what. People can be responsible pet owners! My rabbits use the litterbox, are extremely carefully monitored when out of their condo, and are well mannered. If you have to sneak in a pet, do it responsibly – you have to be 5 times as careful about damage then you would in a place you owned yourself.

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  48. October 09, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Guest said:

    I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN SAY PET’S CAUSE ALOT O DAMAGE. IF THEY CAUSE ANY DAMAGE AT ALL, IT IS DEFINITLY MINIMAL. CHILDREN ARE THE ONES THAT CAUSE DAMAGE, AND CAN CAUSE PLENTY AND SO DO ADULTS.

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  49. October 10, 2008 at 10:42 am, Guest said:

    I agree that a rental property is not mine, and tenants should follow the rules.

    But don’t lie to people and tell them an eviction permanently ruins your credit history. It doesn’t. After 7 years, the credit bureaus don’t report that information anymore, and it won’t come up on a criminal background check.

    It might come up if a landlord does a more complete background check (which many do), but all it means is they might charge you a larger deposit, or more rent depending on how old it is.

    I’ve never been evicted, but if a landlord wanted to ding me on something that was over seven years old, then he’s just telling me he’s not the right landlord for me.

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  50. October 10, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Guest said:

    Okay miss sticks to the book or else. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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  51. October 10, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Guest said:

    I believe a lot of per owners are pretty selfish as far as wanting to impose their pet situations on others… I work in an apartment complex where people pretty much bring in cats, even though they are not allowed… A lot of the apartments cannot be rented because a lot of people have cat allergies so we potential renters… It takes a while to rent an apartment where a pet has contaminated the environment just like a smoker would…

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  52. October 11, 2008 at 10:12 am, Guest said:

    I just wanted to reply to the comment: “The apartment you live in is not yours, it is the property owners.” This is an all too common misstatement made by uneducated property managers and leasing agents.

    A lease on an apartment or rental house transfers the ownership interest to the leaseholder for the period of the lease. The lessor has full property rights at that point, not to be exercised to the detriment of any other lessor. The “property owner” has the right of reversion once the lease is over. Lessors have a lot more rights than they are told by property managers.

    That said, if the lessor agrees not to have any pets, they are bound by contract and subject to damages for breach of contract. However, lessors, many landlords/apartment managers will try to say you owe an exoribitant amount, including their overly inflated fees. Dont be fooled, they usually are not legally due as much as they demand.

    Posted by a licensed attorney.

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  53. October 11, 2008 at 3:04 pm, Guest said:

    I currently live in richmond va and the apartments i live in do not allow animals but they are so dumb I have been living here for going on over a year and I have had 2 animals one was a cute lil dog I dont know what breed he was but he was so cute and small and he got on my nerves thoughhe kept on sh$ting everywhere and peeing but me being the clean person i am i cleaned my carpet everyday not just because of the dog I just cant stand filth everything has to be clean and in order so if the maintenance or the lanlord was to come in my house they couldnt tell I had a animal usually you can smell a animal but unfortunately my lil puppy died R.I.P. Weezy mama mizz u baby….Now I have yet another puppy a 5 month old pure bred Pitbull and he barks alot but like i said the people round here are so damn dumb the maitenance people see me with the dog but dont say nothing cause they doing they own down low things seriously they do crack i see and know the people thye buy they drugs from so they dont snitch on us and we dont snitch on them thats some crazy stuff they so scared about getting caught they wont snitch on nobody and the manager of the apartments just her fat ass in the office allday she dont want to do anything so me and my loud barking chill outside and chill and harrass the haters.
    OOOHHH and by the way 2 further let you know how dumb they are my 5 month puppy aint no small puppy he almost the size of a full grown pitbull with a big face he is beautiful usually it would be hard to sneak and have a dog but i am managing to to have a large pitbull in a no pets aloud apartment. Not bragging just explainig how dumb the rental people iz round here

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  54. October 11, 2008 at 4:21 pm, Guest said:

    I sympathize with the tenant above who points out all the noise and damage from children, not to mention the restriction they place on the rest of our lifestyles by being present.

    I’d pay extra, lots extra, if I could live in an adults only complex with no brats around, like we used to before Reagan came along and screwed us.

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  55. October 11, 2008 at 11:06 pm, Guest said:

    I really do not like the idea of sneaking a pet in but the problem is that my boyfriend has a staffordshire bull and terrier, one of the breeds considered to be a pit bull and NOBODY will take a pit. We are moving to a new place and we just can’t find an apartment complex where they will allow her.

    She’s a sweet, wonderful dog. But I hate living in fear of eviction, I would feel horrible if we gave her away. It’s a terrible predicament.

    There are so many misconceptions about pit bulls and there is really no evidence that they are inherently more aggressive than other breeds of dogs. They have a bad rap because they have grown popular among irresponsible, dog fighting owners. If you train a dog to be aggressive, or if you abuse him, then you wind up with a mean dog no matter what the breed.

    so because of the irresponsible owners, and the narrow-minded people who overgeneralize about breeds, we are having to pay the price.

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  56. October 13, 2008 at 3:23 am, Guest said:

    If you don’t have a pet, let your management come and see – everyday if they need to. If you do, find a place for the pet (not at your apartment complex) to stay for a while during the time that management is checking. Then I’d say start searching for a place that allows pets ASAP. It’s not a good idea to sneak a pet in there, but whether you are or not, I think you are right that management should need more proof than an “alleged dog bark.”

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  57. October 13, 2008 at 11:15 am, Guest said:

    It appears there is a misunderstanding of what “damage” is when it comes to pets. The damage that pets do – typically – is marking territory (peeing on the carpet). Even if treated immediately, the damage is typically permanent as the urine soaks through the carpet and into the padding. If it gets past the padding, it will soak into a wood floor, possibly into untreated concrete. These stains can be smelled by the next tenant’s pets and they will re-mark the territory.

    I’ve been in houses with cats and they always use the litter pans or go outside. Always. Except when its time to mark territory.

    Repairing “pet stain” damage is costly to the OWNER of the property. Not only do they have to replace the carpeting, they are losing lease money while that work is being done.

    There are pets where I live now and I wish there weren’t. The people that live below me let their dogs out at 5:30am and then spend 10 minutes calling them back in. They don’t clean up after their dogs despite the rules.

    Leasing/Renting property makes you a paying guest and you have to abide by the rules.

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  58. October 13, 2008 at 11:27 am, Guest said:

    First, let me state that I have pets (a dog and a cat) and I researched and found a complex that allows up to two pets–we did pay extra for a pet deposit and we pay extra each month for their rent, too. All well worth it to us. Each of the places we have lived in that allowed pets expected (it was stated in the lease) that we would immediately clean up after our dogs were outside. And we always did (without complaint), and we noticed that most other pet owners did the same (sadly, not everyone does this, though). Which is wonderful because then there are no ‘surprises’ when out walking. After all, if you have your own home, you would (or should, anyway) clean up after your pet and not let it just sit there to attract flies, etc.

    Our dog got cancer throughout his lymphatic system and as a result, frequently lost control of his bowels and bladder (quite normal, according to the vet). Previous to this he was perfectly housebroken. We borrowed a family member’s steam carpet cleaner and thoroughly cleaned the carpets TWICE–no more stains and no odor. We then got another dog who is also housebroken and this dog has not had any accidents–even where the previous dog did, so the steam cleaner had removed all traces so that no other animal would want to mark over it. The cat uses a litterbox–no problems.

    When our children were small, they frequently spilled drinks (despite our rules about only in the kitchen) on carpeting and it left stains. We did clean those up–but I know that some kids are pretty destructive–I’ve heard horror stories from others.

    My best friend (also a petowner of both cats and dogs and an avid animal lover–has fostered pets) has a condo she rents out. She allowed her first tenant to have cats. What a mistake. This person’s cats did NOT use the litterbox most of the time–and this renter did not keep it clean enough, either. When this person moved out, every square inch of carpet and flooring had to be completely removed and then the subfloor sanitized and cleaned to remove the ammonia smell. I was there–it was so awful that you could smell it in the common hallway. She then had to put in all new flooring in the entire condo. She has now, sadly, decided she can no longer allow pets, even if they pay an additional pet deposit considering how much it cost her to clean up. By the way, the person who rented was someone she knew–not a stranger–and she had thought the person was a responsible pet owner!

    Previously, we had rented a place where the previous renter had a dog (we did not have any pets back then). The carpets were cleaned, there were no stains or odors, however, the dog had fleas and the carpeting still had the little critters there–biting our feet and ankles and covering our barely one year old child with bites on his arms and legs and torso when he crawled or sat on the floor. The landlord had to pay for us to stay at a hotel for a weekend while the entire place was fumigated/sprayed to kill all the fleas and their eggs. That was not cheap for him, and not convenient for us, either.

    Bottom line–pets can cause as much damage (or in these cases, more) than children. But, there are responsible pet owners out there, too. It is well worth it to search and find a place/landlord who will evaluate YOU and then allow you to live there with your pet(s). We are SO glad to live in our current apartment with our pets–we can’t imagine life without them. But it took a LOT of work to find each of the places where we have lived that allowed pets. By the way, each of those places also gave us excellent references as tenants when we moved AND refunded us our deposits.

    I know a number of places charge extra to clean to remove pet dander, etc. because some people are highly allergic and they need to thorougly clean EVERYTHING to make sure that there are no health problems for the next tenant. So the extra pet deposit isn’t just for ‘accidents’ or visible damage caused by pets.

    I guess if you feel it is worth the risk to sneak in a pet and get caught and get evicted–then lose your deposit and possibly be sued for the remaining time left on your lease (a number of places we have rented have that sort of clause as standard–if you break the lease OR are evicted, they will sue and collect rent for all the months left on your lease) plus any additional costs to clean up, as well as having that on your rental history and possibly credit record as well, that’s your choice. After all the trouble it is to find the right place, the costs involved in moving and then the actual move, I just wouldn’t risk it.

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  59. October 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm, Guest said:

    We own a rental house. We have had the same renters for years. Last year they asked if they could have a dog that they might inherit. WE discussed it at the time and decided that the dog would not be a good idea for liability reasons. Our property manager went over the contract with the renter Pointing out no dogs. Well 5 months later we get a call from post office. They said that a smalldog from our property, had attacked one of the postal workers. The renter decided to keep the dog even after we told them no. Because of the way things work. We are still responsible for the attack because we are the only poeple with insurance. So next time you are thinking about sneaking pets remember the ramifications to everyone involved.

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  60. October 13, 2008 at 5:37 pm, Guest said:

    judgments from evictions stay on public record for 7-10 years if the tenant doesnt file an appeal or have the case sealed by the judge. 99% of the time the Landlords need to brush up on federal and state enforced laws on tenancy. 90% of the standard leases that tenants sign are in violation of many rights granted to folks in the state of residency. Tenants have way more rights then a landlord wants to admit to. Dogs for the disabled (blind, handicapped, emotional therepy dogs) are federally protected from any landlords attempt for eviction unless such animal violates a city code (no shots, diseased, or ill tempered).

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  61. October 14, 2008 at 12:36 am, Guest said:

    you know what he/she meant…….you dumb self-righteous —–!!!!

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  62. October 14, 2008 at 11:46 am, Guest said:

    Cats scratch at carpet and shred it, dogs chew on cabinet doors and scratch on doors (which leaves deep grooves) and irresponsible owners who don’t housebreak their pets aren’t likely to clean up after them properly, leaving stains and odors.

    It all comes down to being a responsible parent or pet owner, and caring about your “home”, whether you own it or rent it.

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  63. October 14, 2008 at 4:29 pm, Guest said:

    I feel that if you have a dog that is on the “restricted list” whatever that means, most of it is media influenced, that the management should allow a temparment test be administered to the animal and if it passes it should be able to move in. I have a rott and everyone that meets him will pet him and play with him until i tell him he is a rott then they freak out. It’s all in the owner good owners have good pets that’s it.

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  64. October 14, 2008 at 11:46 pm, Guest said:

    I have worked in propetry management for many years & I can tell you from experience that pets, all kinds of pets do a tremendous amount of damage. I, myself own both cats & dogs & they have done damage to my home. That’s my home, not someone elses property. Very often we have had to replace new carpet after a resident has left who owned no pets. Yet when you pull the carpet back it is totally ruined. People try to get by with hiding cats but they are notorous window sitters & cannot be missed by any keen eyed employee. People swear they’re dog is an American Bulldog when anyone with two eyes knows a pit bull when they see one. A 60 pound dog looks nothing like a 25 pound dog so saying it is doesn’t make it so. About 20% of people with dogs will pick up after them. The other 80% take them in front of someone elses unit to do their business because they don’t want it in front of their apartment. Most properties don’t allow puppies—we all know why. Cats, rabbits, fish, lizards etc.. do far less damage than dogs. It is not the fault of dogs. It’s just in their nature after being cooped up waiting for someone to come home. Please people, if you have a pet, come clean about it with management. Don’t try to hide it. It is not worth the worry & is unfair to your beloved pet. And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pick up after your dog. When it comes down to facts, it is FECES. No one wants it on their shoes, in the grass where their kids play or in front of their unit. It is unsanitary & also illegal with huge fines if caught.

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  65. October 15, 2008 at 11:35 am, Guest said:

    OK first of all I agree that yes there are rules but what do you do when a specific group of people have just totally ruined the reputation of 1 specfic breed. I have 2 pitbulls who wouldn’t hurt a fly but b/c of the fear and reputation they have I can’t find ANY apartment anywhere that will take them. And for the person who said we take our dogs to the vet to have them listed as another breed do your research sweetie there is a difference between an American Pitbull Terrier & a Staffordshire Terrier!It’s funny to me how only the stories about pitbulls that bite someone are shown on the news and blown up out of proportion but truth be told people are bit by dogs everyday!!!It’s always blame the pitbulls! A stinking chihuahua will bite, any dog that has teeth will bite when provoked or protecting!!!! I just get furious when an entire breed is forced to pay for a person’s ignorance.People train dogs not the other way around! And I’ve read every comment on here and I do agree there are rules. For some of us pet owners those pets are our children and they have a right to live in a nice area as well as everyone else.And for those who say oh well can’t find a place get rid of them get a life that’s like saying get rid of your kids! So I say all that to say this if I do decide to move and sneak them in that’s on me & nobody else!!! This is America the decisions you make are your own as well as the consequences and whoever doesn’t like it get over it there are more important things in life to be worried about!

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  66. October 15, 2008 at 5:43 pm, Guest said:

    I rented once and did the pet thing, they started to randomly try to enter my apt for bogus reasons. One day, I actually came home to the “apt” which was a house with 4 apt, and found all 4 front doors open, the locks off every door and 2 random teenagers handling the locks….suffice to say I was alarmed and called not only the police but the office who told me and my roomate that they were changing the screws in the locks. It is not a good idea because then you just fight with the managment team and the things ppl who work in this field do are unethical and borderline criminal to make a dollar.
    I agree with most of the statments, if children are allowed to live in apartments, then animals should be as well, most animals are better behaved than most ppls kids…just look at that kid screaming on the floor in the grocery store or the kids crying at R rated movies….Perhaps there needs to be a case about this form of discrimination.

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  67. October 18, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Guest said:

    Well Said

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  68. October 19, 2008 at 5:19 pm, Guest said:

    Defiantly don’t sneak them in if they don’t allow pets because you would have to pay a huge fine, you would either loose your pet or have to break your lease which will cost you money and then you will most likely have to pay first and last months rent at your next apt.
    Anyway, the pet rent is totally unfair ~ they don’t make you pay for additional babies or children so why should we have to pay when pets don’t work
    I don’t think a little bit of a deposit is that bad esp if it is refundable

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  69. October 19, 2008 at 6:57 pm, Guest said:

    I am a property manager at a building that does not allow dogs. The reasons we do not accept pets are irrelevant. We don’t. Period. You can’t persuade us to either because many residents moved into our building because we DON’T accept pets. So while you may think it is no big deal to allow a dog, I potentially would have 100 others residents absolutely pissed at management. Don’t just think about yourself. Don’t try sneaking them in. You will get caught. You will be evicted. Period. You knew the rules before moving in. Oh, and I am not a dog hater. I have had them my whole life and love them. I would never live in a building that doesn’t allow them. Neither should you if you have one :-)

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  70. October 20, 2008 at 10:26 am, Guest said:

    You have to be kidding. This is America and if a person or corporation own a property they have an absolute right to determine the rules around what they will and will not allow. I have two large dogs and understand the difficulties, but I have never read anything with such a sense of entitlement. Get over yourself.

    As for the Media, they always have the “If it bleeds, it leads” mentality. They rarely, if ever report on the good and always report on the bad, with Adults, kids, or dogs. Pitt Bulls, by breeding have the capability to cause more damage than most, they are just a lot stronger in the biting area, they get a bad wrap because when they get mad, they bite hard.

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  71. October 20, 2008 at 11:55 am, Guest said:

    I think it’s very wrong to go against the lease terms. I have always looked for homes that did not have pets in them. I love dogs and cats but do not believe in sharing my home with them. I have always had outdoors pets and they were much happier than a pet imprisoned in an apartment all day.

    Regardless of how cute and clean your think your dog is, I can smell it outside of your home. You dog spreads feces particles and saliva all over the home. You as a petowner can’t smell your dog, but I can smell a dog-home before I even step inside.

    I have never seen a house or apartment that had a dog that didn’t have some kind of damage or hair all over after the people moved out.

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  72. October 20, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Guest said:

    Why should eveyone be punished for those who cannot properly care for the pets. The nopets rule should be revised to a size, age, responsiblility classification. Why should someone who has already gone through the potty training, obediance training, and keeping up with all precausions necessary be punished. I am a loving pet owner who has went to great measures to train my dog for obediance. I don’t see why I shouldn’t be allowed to have my dog stay in my home. He weighs under 5pounds and doesn’t cause a mess of any sort. He waits til I am home to take him out for his daily walk, and is to small to damage other parts of the house. People like me are being punished for unresponsible dog owners. I just don’t see the fairness. I shouldn’t have to worry everyday about my dog being caught. Almost anywhere you look landlords have the no pet policy. This is just an idea but maybe this should be considered??

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  73. October 20, 2008 at 9:39 pm, Guest said:

    Okay I am a Licensed Veterinary Technician living in Northern VA. I would never have animals living in my apartment that are not allowed! If you want pets, you need to seek out a place that allows pets, or BUY YOUR OWN PLACE! When you rent, the property is not yours and signing the lease is your acknowledgement of that. Play by the rules. I desprately want a dog, but since we are renting in a place that does not allow dogs I will have to wait. What is it with people now a days, why does everyone think they are immune to the rules! I recently turned in someone on my floor that has been bringing in a puppy! If you break the rules you need to be able to take what is comming to you, otherwise wait! BTW… as a Veterinary Technician, if I was renting property, I would not allow pets! I have seen too many people what will put up with deplorable behaviors/conditions by their pets.

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  74. October 21, 2008 at 8:46 am, Guest said:

    I think you’re missing the point of looking for a place to live. It is all about self. I am not going to spend $600-800 a month for a place just to think about my neighbors and not my own needs. I agree that someone should not move into a complex that doesn’t allow pets if they in fact have pets. However, the reasons your property does not allow dogs is not negligible to the discussion. I would say it is very important to the discussion at large. If your community is no pets by choice of the community members, then that’s one thing. But, if your property is concerned over damages and the normal wear and tear that comes with having pets, that’s another matter entirely. But don’t come on here talking about how your residents would be pissed at management blah, blah, blah without listing the reasons your property doesn’t accept dogs. It seems to me a very poor excuse to blame it on the residents that would be mad if you did accept them. And, let’s me honest, you people could give a flying rat’s ass about your residents being pissed at management because when the lease is up, someone else will move in. There’s no accountability in the apartment business anymore and it’s even worse in Texas because the market is at 99.9% saturation with everyone moving in. So, I’m glad you love dogs but that doesn’t make your policy or your comment telling pet owners to think of others right.

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  75. October 21, 2008 at 10:39 am, Guest said:

    In regards to your “marking the territory” comment. That is 100% bull! I have 4 cats. We live in an apartment building where cats and small dogs were allowed, until ownership changed. Those who have animals were grandfathered in to be allowed to keep them.

    All 4 of my cats have been fixed, meaning that the females are spayed, and the male is neutered. They do not mark territory, none of them do. The people who lived in this apartment before us had 2 cats and 2 dogs. We found this out from asking the management team. We have been here for 2 years and have never had an incident of peeing outside of the litterbox, “marking” any territory, or even scratching any walls. Cats will damage things if not provided places to scratch, we have 4 scratching posts for these “kids”.

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  76. October 21, 2008 at 10:40 am, Guest said:

    I don’t know, I understand the fact that there are plenty of issues with people that are misinformed ruining the fun for everyone. I have been looking for apartments that allow pets for a long time, but not for a dog or a cat. It’s odd to think that caged pets would be a huge issue, since I have a lizard, a mouse, and a snake and they rarely if ever leave their cages. A lot of places will say caged animals are okay, then they find out it’s a snake and freak out.

    However, I respect their decision and would not impose a snake on anyone afraid of it, because if it DOES get out (I’ve had it for 3 years and it has yet to perform an escape), I do not want to have any issues because, even though most of the time it is for immature and uneducated reasons, a lot of people are afraid of snakes, just like pitbulls. So yes, I’m moving into an apartment that costs a lot more just so that I can have pets, but if you care about your pet you will be patient and find a place that will allow your pet or a person who may be able to properly care for your pet until you can purchase your own property. I understand finding a place for a Pitbull is unreasonably hard, but you have to think of your pets welfare, a dog trapped in an apartment all day where it cannot be walked or get enough excersize can be damaging to your pets health as well as happiness, and I understand giving up a pet is VERY VERY hard, but you may have to think of it as putting up a kid for adoption for it’s own good. Or even just giving it to grandparents for a little while so you can get on your feet. Pets are a large responsibility, and these are things that should come up BEFORE you get one.

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  77. October 21, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Guest said:

    First of all, I love pets. I have had dogs & cats all my life (+ birds, fish, turtles, etc). That said, I hate irresponsible pet owners that expect others to put up with their mess because their little babies must be free, unleashed & undisciplined, God forbid spayed or neutered! Over the years I’ve been kept awake by incessant barking, chased to my door by snarling dogs & endured smelly hallways, so I moved to a place with a no-pets policy when my last cat passed away. I miss having a kitty & hope someday to move again in order to have one again, but I don’t want pets now, so I stay put.

    I wouldn’t “rat” on the neighbors out of being evil, but you know the rules when you move in, there’s no excuse. If I ever hear barking in my building or meet a dog on the hallway I’ll call management to complain. I love cats & they’re quiet, but people with allergies have no alternative, they’d get sick anyway. Some people have phobias to even dogs & cats. We all make the sacrifice of no pets in our lives for a reason, why should anyone get to break those same rules?

    Deposits & rent for pets can be very high indeed, but I think the reason is acceptable: higher insurances, higher maintenance, complaints, all costing $ & time to handle. There will be responsible owners, sure, but alas they are in the minority. I wish those fees were always refundable for those that do take care of their pets & homes, but if I want a pet I’ll willingly pay for the priviledge.

    BTW, yes, kids can be a lot more annoying & messy than pets, usually their parents are the same irresponsible jerks as the bad pet owners, but there are allowances made for them being the same species as the rest of us, you know? I would happily pay extra for a place that allowed no kids but said yes to cats (& cats only). Maybe a ferret. ;-)

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  78. October 21, 2008 at 3:37 pm, Guest said:

    From I am an apartment manager. This started as a reference to pets. Service animals are protected by federal laws and are not considered pets. Therefore no deposits or fees can be charged. However, if the animal damages the property, it is the residents responsability to pay for the damages. Secondly, documentation is provided at the time of move in or upon the resident aquiring the animal to show it is a service or therapy animal. You can also make a request for an accomodation, we provide these to our residents, for the animal, if you don’t have an obvious disability, the landlord can require proof. like a note from your therapist. We have had 2 service dogs at our property and we have a few therapeutic cats.
    I would also say that tenants are responsable for knowing their rights and reporting to appropriate authorities if they feel their rights have been violated. Maybe they should read their leases…..

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  79. October 22, 2008 at 7:47 am, Guest said:

    I’ve had my 30lb dog live with me in three different apartments, and even though I would have liked him to destroy most of them(due to the idiot management I’ve had to deal with), each apartment was in the same if not better condition when I left. Pet deposits are greedy and everyone(if you have a quiet, well-behaved animal) should ignore them!!! Simply tell them you don’t have a pet when you sign the lease.

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  80. October 22, 2008 at 1:17 pm, Guest said:

    Oh, do I ever so agree with you. Reagan was a wealthy nincompoop who could afford to live wherever he wanted to. He should have been forced to live in an apartment, most of which are not soundproof, with kids. It really seems to be discriminatory that adults can’t live in adults-only communities. What harm is there in that????

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  81. October 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm, Guest said:

    To Guest 83208
    I did not say it stays on your credit forever. It does stay on your public record forever, if it is filed onto your public record. In our state, every case that goes onto the docket is on public record. I believe you can request it to be amended and pay fees that go along with it. However, it is still there. Credit and public records are 2 different things. And you are right, a lot of the backround and credit checks also consist of public records checks.
    Just because it has been 7 plus years since an eviction, it does not mean that you would be a worthwhile resident. You may have moved home or with friends in the duration and will still be a bad tenant…Kind of like credit, it can take years to repair the damage and eviction can leave.
    If only people did a little more research to find a community that meets their needs and future needs. Sometimes it’s worth the fees for the peace of mind that you and your animals are a welcome addition to the community. Not to have to lock your animals away in hiding all day. I am sure your animals will appreciate your responsable actions for their well being.

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  82. October 23, 2008 at 4:30 pm, Guest said:

    Don’t ever try to sneak rats in!
    Last year my roommate at the time decided to bring her pet rat into our place after a trip to her parent’s house. She only asked my permission after she had the animal in tow, so I agreed that so long as it stayed in it’s cage at all times. Within a week I caught her letting him out, and somebody who lived across from our window saw a rat running around our apartment. They panicked and called the manager, assuming we had an infestation of some kind (I would have done the exact same thing). The manager found out and gave us a day to remove the rat or we would both get kicked out!
    Moral of the story:
    Always ask everybody’s permission before bringing a pet in, not after. Sometimes begging forgiveness is worse than asking permission!

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  83. October 23, 2008 at 6:59 pm, Guest said:

    I agree I am currently living in a apartment apparently the tennats before us had a cat which marked its spot in the closet instead of the padding being changed it was left and new carpet placed on top I was told that there was nothing much I could do, because once it soaks into baseboard etc its impossible to get out. If we leave light on in closet it smells horrible !!! I am really disgusted!

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  84. October 24, 2008 at 2:08 am, Guest said:

    Fees are too high for pet owners. If fees were lower then people would be less likely to try to sneak in their pets.
    I have 3 cats but most of the leases that I have read state I am only allowed 2. My last landlord didn’t say anything about the third cat especially since the lady next door had 5 or 6 at one point because she rescued a pregnant feline.I was lucky in this case because the landlord waived the pet fees upon signing the lease and didn’t say anything about the 3rd cat.
    I am now relocating to a new city and all of the leases that I read state a maximum of 2 cats, a $300 to $500 non-returnable pet deposit and $20 a month rent for EACH cat. That’s at the very least $600 extra on top of 1st,last,deposit,and admin fees at move in.
    If my very well behaved cats happen to have an accident it would be less expensive for me to have the carpeting and padding replaced professionally than paying these exorbitant fees.

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  85. October 24, 2008 at 9:57 am, Guest said:

    You are hilarious!!! I want to have a conversation with you….hit me back with your IM info? I fell off the couch and hit my head laughing at your comment!!!

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  86. October 24, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Guest said:

    We’ve lived with 3 cats and a dog for 3 years and never got caught.

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  87. October 24, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Guest said:

    I have a well behaved 20 lb fox terrier who was housebroken in 2 weeks as a puppy & has never damaged property or wasted indoors for 11 years. I pick up after him twice a day when we go for walks while on a leash & know people who have cats that whine in heat & spray, not to mention the litterbox smells. If there are problems with pets, it because of their owners & most of us who have pets that behave better than some children are penalized & it’s unfair, but I would not want to be blamed for the pets that are out of control because of their inconsiderate owners…same for parents, however it’s a struggle for me finding a place because I have a ‘dog’ & don’t want to live at a place where they are all discriminated against. However, there are laws & considerations that some of us abide by, there are also others who don’t. I say fine & report those who don’t.

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  88. October 25, 2008 at 5:33 am, Guest said:

    anyone ever hidden a cat for a few years, then when they moved out, the landlord could tell by smell, stains, etc. if so, what did you have to pay for and how much did everything cost? any stories of this would be great. thanks.

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  89. October 25, 2008 at 8:49 pm, Guest said:

    No matter what, never, EVER take your pet into a rental situation without getting it in writing in your rental agreement or lease. I was baited-and-switched by a landlord who allowed other tenants to have pets, had a pet themselves, said “maybe in the future” I could have one, but when I snuck mine in, ended up forcing me to surrender it to a rescue or else get evicted, lose my hefty deposit and rent, and I was already flat broke. This was the single worst experience of my life and haunts me to this day. I was in a new, very pet-unfriendly town and had no idea of this ahead of time. If you are moving with a beloved pet, do your research. If I had known that renting with a pet was impossible, I never would have moved there. Do not suffer what my pet did and what I will for the rest of my life!

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  90. October 26, 2008 at 6:16 pm, Guest said:

    Look…

    Here’s the bottom line.

    You as the landlord sit down with a tenant who has a pet (cats specifically only allowed) and talk about damage projections in worse case scenario.

    If it’s 2,000 to replace all carpet…
    Landlord agree’s to a 2,000 deposit

    If it’s 3,000 for carpet and scratchmarks on whatever…
    Landlord agree’s to a 3,000 deposit.

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  91. October 27, 2008 at 1:21 pm, Guest said:

    I am a landlord who is now ready to kill a tennant that moved out without paying her last month rent. She apparently had animals but never paid the animal deposit. Now I have spent hundreds trying to get rid of the fleas which have even spread to my animals as they must have traveled on my husband and son’s clothing after spending a day cleaning, deoderizing, and exterminating the house. My poor animals have never had fleas are miserable. Please renters, be considerate!!!

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  92. October 27, 2008 at 2:12 pm, Guest said:

    okay unless that puppy was bothering you, that was pretty hateful of you. you cant push your beliefs on others… its not up to you to enforce rules, just go live by your rules… and everyone else will pay the price for their own actions.

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  93. October 27, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Guest said:

    if you cant afford a pet… dont get one? seems pretty straightforward to me….

    but yea, pet rent is kinda silly in my opinion. i think refundable pet deposits are fair.

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  94. October 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm, Anonymous said:

    I have been in Property Management for over 10 years and I would like to share some information with the renters out there:

    I know most of you feel like the pet fees, deposits, and “pet rent” charges are steep and unfair. I would like to share a situation with you. I once had a Resident who brought two cats into her two-bedroom apartment. She paid the pet fees ($500 Deposit, $150 Non-Refundable Pet Fee, and $30 a month for Pet Rent). She lived there for almost 9 months and in that time, her cats managed to spray almost every square inch of the apartment. Even after replacing the carpet, padding, and tack-strips in the home, cutting out and replacing some drywall that was stained, and dousing the home in air freshener, we could not get the smell of cat urine out. It was in the cement, walls, frame – everywhere. It took us almost 2 months to get this unit rented because nobody wanted to live there. Some simple math: The resident paid $30 a month in pet rent ($30×9 months = $270) $270 pet rent + $500 pet deposit + $150 pet fee = $920 total received for this tenants pet. The new carpet, pad and tack-strips cost $2400, the loss in rent cost almost $1900, and the drywall work cost almost $300. Even after subtracting what we’ve collected for both cats, we were still in the hole almost $3700. So as you can see, it can also be very costly for Landlords to allow pets. This brings into play the “one bad apple can spoil a bunch” theory. Anyone can say their pet is well behaved, housetrained, etc. The problem is that through experience, Landlords have found that a deposit is the only way to guarantee a return on pet damage; someone’s good-faith word isn’t enough. With this in mind, all of us Property Managers appreciate your understanding in our financial requirements regarding pets. If you have a well-behaved pet, you shouldn’t have anything to worry about.

    If you live at a property that does not accept pets, it is important that you NOT sneak one in. There are several reasons for this. Property Managers (especially ones who work for large corporations like Equity Residential, Camden, AMLI, etc.) are excellent at telling if you’ve had a pet in the apartment. They will charge, and have every right to charge you, for any damages that result from you bringing an unauthorized pet into the Premises. It’s not an easy job to “hide” your pet, either. Firstly, your neighbors may notice your pet and report it to Management – especially if they were told they couldn’t have a pet. Your neighbor isn’t going to assume you snuck the pet in – they’re going to assume Management approved it. Wouldn’t you do the same if the situation was reversed? I know I would… I’d be really upset if I was told I couldn’t have a pet but someone else could. Secondly, dogs have a tendency to bark, cats have a tendency to sit in windows, and any maintenance personnel entering your home to perform work will notice your pet, the smell of a pet, pet toys, food, etc. There are several ways to tell if a pet has been living in the home. So the best way to avoid any hassle from your Property Manager is to just follow the rules. The situation is a little different if you live at a property that does accept pets – not only will they charge you for pet damage, they’ll also charge you the standard pet deposit, non-refundable pet fee, and retro-charge you for pet rent from the date you moved in… they have every right to this, as well. Don’t sneak a pet in… it will end up costing you a lot more money in the end.

    The next issue is Pet Rent. The reason we charge pet rent is simple: to offset the costs we incur for allowing you to bring a pet onto the property. These costs include manpower for our maintenance team having to pick up after peoples pets, the cost to install “doggy stations” that provide bags and waste receptacles for pets (those little stations cost about $600 each, and the bags are pretty pricey as well), and any damages caused by the pet to the Community or Premises. Pet Rent is an industry standard.

    Restricted breeds are another big problem – 99% of properties will not allow any Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, or Dobermans. These dogs are aggressive looking and can turn aggressive at any time on anyone (we’ve all heard stories about dogs turning on their owners). Management Companies have this policy in place to protect other Residents and other dogs… not to discriminate against you or your pet. They’re just too much of a liability for the property. If you want to own this type of dog, I suggest purchasing a home. Trying to find an apartment community that will accept your dog will be tricky.

    All in all, most landlords are pleased to allow your pets on property – as long as you take responsibility for their actions, ensure their behavior is not bothersome, damaging, or threatening, and follow the rules. The concept is simple: follow the rules at your community or move into a single family home where you can do as you please. Remember… when renting an apartment it is Managements responsibility to ensure every person can enjoy the community just as well as the next.

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  95. October 29, 2008 at 9:41 pm, Guest said:

    Sneaking in a pet says more about the pet owner than it does about anything else. It doesn’t matter what other tenants do, how many cats you can count in windows, how much barking you hear in the hall.

    When you sign your lease, it is between YOU and the Lessor. It doesn’t matter what agreement anyone else has. What you read (and you really MUST take the time to read) and sign your lease, you are bound by what it says. If it says no pets – you signed it, you agree that there will be no pets.

    Maybe it is old fashioned to expect people to be up-front and honest, but I do. If a neighbor of mine will sneak in a pet that his/her lease states he/she cannot keep in that apartment, I do not expect honesty in any other form from that neighbor – I watch my back! – because that neighbor has shown he/she cannot be trusted to keep his/her word.

    I am prowling around these pages because I am planning a move across several states. I am bringing my 7 year old spayed, declawed, litterbox faithful (and up-on-her-shots and licensed) cat with me. I’ve found wonderful places that meet all my needs but one: I cannot bring my cat. They are immediately crossed off the list, albeit wistfully.

    I am not trying to convince management people their policy should not apply to me; I just keep looking. There is a place for us. I will never sneak her in. It isn’t fair to the cat or myself. To impose my cat upon neighbors where cats are not allowed is rude, arrogant, and downright un-neighborly.

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  96. October 30, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Guest said:

    If you violate the terms of a lease, be prepared to pay the price.

    The price may be immediate eviction, forfeiture of deposit and legal fees.

    There are some developments that adapt a don’t look dont tell attitude, unless they have a problem tenant.

    Comparing children to animals is like comparing apples and oranges.

    If children are on the lease, they can legally reside in an apartment and this discussion is about violating lease agreements, with pets.

    It is not unreasonable to charge “rent” for animals. The landlord is charging upfront for damages that often occur, in exchange for the privilege of keeping your animal on property.

    There are dogs that will chew on wood, cats and dogs that will chew on electric cords, causing a possible short circuit or fire.

    I know someone that violated a no pets policy and was evicted. She did not garner sympathy from me. She jeopardized her family’s housing for the selfish desire to own a pet in a complex that strictly stated no pets.

    Now she has a home with dogs that jump on the couch to urinate on it, defecate all over the brand new floors, and complains about the difficulty of cleaning her home, and wants to rent again.

    When I suggested she give up her dogs, if she chose to rent again, this was out of the question. Having her child uprooted, moved to another school district didn’t seem to be a concern, however.

    I have nothing against animals, but recognize there are some very irresponsible pet owners, just like there are irresponsible parents, since people on this thread have brought up unruly, misbehaved, unsupervised children.

    Other tenants often hear unattended dogs and cats barking or meowing all day.

    They hear the large dog with untrimmed nails running back and forth above them, in complexes with no pet policies.

    It is unfair to these tenants that moved into a complex with certain expectations of a pet free environment.

    Management companies have these fees and policies because of previous pet owners, not to extort money.

    The damage caused from an eccentric with several dogs or cats, using the entire apartment as a bathroom has long standing damage that isn’t easy to rectify, even with changing carpets, ripping out floor boards and fumigating.

    There are also people with very real allergies that get asthmatic attacks, due to animal dander.

    I state these observations knowing there are plenty of responsible pet owners that are meticulously clean and care for their animals, while living in rental units, with the explicit permission of rental agents.

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  97. October 31, 2008 at 9:32 am, Guest said:

    I bring my cat… but I take my chances in life. He’s 16 years old, spends 22 hours a day under the bed, not a nuisance, doesn’t spray or meow, and never goes outside. Never been a problem, but if it ever is, I’m prepared to break the lease and lose the deposit – but the property manager better be prepared to look over his/her shoulder for the rest of his/her life.

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  98. October 31, 2008 at 9:58 pm, Guest said:

    I have also been in the industry for going on 15 years now & I could not agree with you more. I will never understand why some people think it is fine to break the rules of a contract signed by them. Contracts are legally binding agreements with the rules clearly stated signed by the leasee before occupancy occurs. What is so hard to understand? Sneaking a pet in makes you a sneak. Plain & simple.If you want your pet, move into a pet friendly complex, pay the deposits, CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR PET, & don’t let it bother your neighbors.

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  99. November 01, 2008 at 12:08 am, Guest said:

    First of all, those were not her “beliefs”, as much as the rules of a lease that the tenant signed and is on file with the apartment.
    Secondly, the puppy may or may not have been bothering her, but there are those of us in the world who have asthmatic reactions to pets, even being in the same building.

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  100. November 02, 2008 at 6:16 am, Guest said:

    I think pet rent, fees and deposits are unreasonable. I’ve had the same dog for over 13 years. In a previous, privately owned apartment we were allowed to have any kind of pet we wanted, however, when we moved to an apartment that was ran by a corporate management group there were all sorts or restrictions. The dog can’t be no more than 25lbs and you have to pay $300 dep there was another fee also and I think it is totally unnecessary. The way I see it, I will more than likely continue to sneak my dog in until she passes away. When you raise a pet they are like your babies and unfortunately every one does not own a home, therefore they have to result to renting apartments, but does that mean we are suppose to contribute to the homeless pet population. More and more dogs or cats have been put to sleep on account of not being able to find homes for these animals in most cases the majority of those pets were from families who lived in apartments and were unable to keep the pet. I personally think it should be against the law for apartments to have a “no pet policy” just like it is against the law to have a “no children allowed” policy. I was caught one time from management and she told me to get rid of her, I complied on that day and put my dog in a shelter, I was completely miserable and within the next hour I got her right back out and have been hiding her ever since. The way I see it F*** management.

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  101. November 02, 2008 at 8:57 am, Guest said:

    Seriously people who don’t own these restricted dog breeds are so ignorant. Yes we’ve heard stories in the news about them turning on their owners but we were not there and don’t know the conditions. Plus there are other dogs who do the same and are more aggressive then these breeds, but these bully breeds are the ones that make the news. People need to stop being stupid and judging dogs by looks and size, they are very sweet and gentle dogs unless provoked which applies to any dog.

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  102. November 02, 2008 at 8:59 am, Guest said:

    Your last word said it all “kids”. I too am a pet lover and have been a property manager for 29 years, so I feel I’m somewhat of an expert in this matter. To often we see people who shouldn’t be parents let alone pet owners. It is very rare to find a responsible pet owner living in a apartment. I truely believe if you want a large pet or multiple pets then you need to rent a house with a backyard not an apartment (mainly dogs).

    I rent and with the owners blessing I have 3 dogs, 2 show dogs and one small dog I inheritted from a former resident who’s small son threw this 9 week old puppy of a third story balcony. I also have a cat and a parrot but rest assurred my home is beautiful, clean and pet happy but just because I have 67 chew toys for the dogs and numerous scratch poles for the cat doesn’t mean he doesn’t scratch the wood at the bottom of the stairs when I’m working, lucky for me my husband is my maintenance man and replacing it will be easy upon move out leaving no damage for the owners but this rarely occurs when a resident moves out of our apartments.

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  103. November 02, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Guest said:

    Not always. In a community like environment, such as a apartment complex, it is up to the tenants to inform the manager when rules are broken, especially when those rules are there for reasons (did you read the flea entry above?). I see it as like police and individual members of society, do we huff and puff when a citizen gives the police a tip that a drug dealer is working next door to him? Or that a person is vandalizing another person’s house? No, because with valid rules, that are there for a reason, it sometimes requires team effort to enforce them, or it could have very negative effects on the entire complex (increase rent for all, etc.), if those rule breakers get away with it until too much property damage has been done.

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  104. November 03, 2008 at 1:37 am, Guest said:

    My dogs pee in my apartment in-GUESS WHERE! Where some other dog that had lived there previously, has peed before. Its just what male dogs do. They are both neutered… doesn’t matter. SO, my dogs get to wear male diapers. Pisses them off, pisses me off… but, what can I do? I stopped picking up poop after my dogs after I stepped in someone else’s dog crap barefoot. If I am paying this “pet deposit” I am going to use it.

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  105. November 03, 2008 at 6:54 am, Guest said:

    The last 3 apartment complexes I lived in I had a cat that I didn’t let the leasing office know about when I moved in. I never got caught once. The reason I resorted to this deception was the scam known as “pet rent” like them charging you an extra $20 or $30 a month, just for the privilege of owning a pet. I have no problem whatsoever with a pet DEPOSIT, like giving them an extra few hundred bucks that will be ALL refunded to me if there is no damage. But the greediness of “pet rent” is a complete farce, it is 100% pure profit for the leasing office, every cent of that “pet rent” you pay extra per month goes to line the pockets of the selfish money-hungry apartment complex. That’s why I rebelled and snuck my cat in anyway. For 4 years it suited me just fine, that’s because I kept to myself, didn’t bother anyone, my cats behaved, and I kept them hidden on those few occasions when maintenance came over.

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  106. November 03, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Guest said:

    Something that also speaks volumes about a person is how they treat their pet. Having a cat declawed is sick and inhumane. It is not only physically very painful for the animal but psychologically damaging as well. Shame on you for putting your pet through something so traumatic just to avoid having your sofa scratched.

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  107. November 03, 2008 at 9:41 pm, Guest said:

    I have had my dog in my apartment for over a year. MY neighbors mind their own business and when management ha seen me out with my dog they have the don’t look don’t tell attitude. I’m very lucky. The complex allows dogs but small ones. Im’lucky my dog does not bark and is very lazy..

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  108. November 04, 2008 at 9:47 am, Guest said:

    All of your points are good ones and make plenty of sense. I would like to add something that it seems that everyone overlooks,and that is that if there is an emergency in your apartment and maintenence , police or anyone else who has to go in is attacked by the animal that is not suppose to be there,legaly you are opening yourself up to a liability law suit.

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  109. November 04, 2008 at 11:56 am, Guest said:

    I recently rented at a complex called LODGE AT KINGWOOD in Texas. My 6 months there was horrible!!! My apartment had ants, mold, unkept grounds outside, overpriced rent, and I didn’t get my deposit back. It apparently cost $200.00(my deposit) to clean the carpet/stove. I left it perferctly clean. They do whatever it takes to never give your money back. I will never live their again. The staff is so unprofessional as if they hate their own jobs. Never again. Everyone I’ve met who leased there will never lease again. Word of mouth is the best advertisement. Peoples cars are stolen, and broken into/towed for no reason. You can’t find your car when you wake up to go to work! That’s a big problem. What a sorry complex. Who knows, their maybe a shooting next.

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  110. November 05, 2008 at 11:32 am, Guest said:

    Actually per FEDERAL LAW no one is required to show any proof or documentation that an animal is a service animal. That is discrimination.

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  111. November 05, 2008 at 3:24 pm, Guest said:

    By the way, it is MUCH easier to have cat in an apartment than it is to bring a dog. However, do your research and you will definitly find several communities that are starting to allow both dogs and cats.

    Inside tip – by law, a landlord must let you have the animal of your choice if you have a note from a doctor stating that you need it. This is ADA compliance.

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  112. November 07, 2008 at 7:55 pm, Guest said:

    I have moved in to not one but TWO apartments where the previous owners had animals and let them poop all over the carpet and pee all over the baseboards. In the first apartment I moved into, I noticed some weird brown stains in the corners so I bent down to get a closer look and caught a whiff of the nastiest thing I’d ever smelled. The management didn’t know anything about a pet because the previous owner had kept it hidden aintenance came and pulled up the carpet and there were huge pee stains all along the wall! My daugther was ten months old at the time and it made me sick to think of her crawling in some dog’s crap. This was supposed to be our living space! I had to wait an extra three weeks to move in to my second apartment because the previous owner–who had ALSO hidden his pet and who had ALSO let it pi$$ all over the floor–was refusing to pay the damages. I didn’t have any family nearby so me and my daughter had to stay where we were and I had to pay penalty for living past the lease expiration date. Not to mention all our neighbors who have these stupid little yappy dogs who bark at EVERY DAMNED THING THAT MOVES! They say it’s to alert them to intruders but with the stupid dogs barking at every falling leaf how the hell would they even know!? Why don’t I take the dogs for a while and they can deal with my daughter when the stupid animals wake both of us up at 3am in the morning?
    I am for the NO PETS policy because from what I’ve seen pet owners are the most disgusting people who let their animals $hit and pi$$ everywhere and can’t even be bothered to take care of the animals they supposedly love so much. If you want a pet so bad then do yourself and your pet a favor: DON’T GET ONE! Work harder now and save up some money so you can buy a house with a big yard in the future and THEN you can buy or adopt as many animals as you like and they’ll have a big yard to run around in instead of just an apartment rug to crap all over.

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  113. November 08, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Guest said:

    If I had already had a pet and couldn’t find an apartment that accepted the, I would still bring my animal with me. When I’m throwing away $500 to live in an apartment, I will live with whatever I want. If I was evicted, I would tear up the apartment, let me dog sh-t and piss EVERYWHERE and just not put that apartment on my rental history. OOOHH…like I care!!

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  114. November 08, 2008 at 5:02 pm, Guest said:

    Good point. I paid pet rent in the past since I know hotels often charge per occupant, not per room but I suppose the property rental industry is a different business.

    I’ll never pay pet rent again.

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  115. November 08, 2008 at 5:06 pm, Guest said:

    “I stopped picking up poop after my dogs after I stepped in someone else’s dog crap barefoot. If I am paying this “pet deposit” I am going to use it.”

    You’re using it at the expense of other people who live in your complex. Quite rude in my opinion.

    Just think of all the people who see you not pick up the poop. Most of them probably only care enough to say something like “look at that lazy &*#^,” but still… You should remember that it happens every time you’re spotted.

    As far as your dog pissing in the spot where another dog has pissed is concerned, you should have demanded that they remove the carpet and whatever else they need to or place you in a unit that is suitable for your pet- after all, you’re paying pet rent.

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  116. November 08, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Guest said:

    So was your pet over 25 lbs or were you just unwilling to follow the rules that you agreed to follow when you signed the lease?

    As the article said- if you weren’t willing to follow the rules, then you should be ready to pay the consequences.

    I’m guessing that most of the time people only pay such consequences when someone has complained about them or a serious problem is occurring but still- you never know when you’ll run into a manager who simply wants to force you to follow the rule in order to save his own but down the line.

    Just think about it hypothetically… I’m a manager. You’re a renter with the attitude “f*** management.” I know that *MY JOB* is on the line if YOU screw up. Do I trust you?

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  117. November 08, 2008 at 5:56 pm, Guest said:

    Wow an ultimatum with what sounds like a death-threat attached. OBVIOUSLY this person wouldn’t think twice before breaking a lease LOL.

    Can you imagine a convicted felon in prison talking to another inmate: “yeah, you know… when i get out i want to live in foobar apartments but they don’t accept pets so i don’t know what to do if i want to get a new pet.”

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  118. November 08, 2008 at 6:14 pm, Guest said:

    Amen! I have a pitbull/yellow lab mix who is constantly judged because she looks like a pitbull. People assume just by looking at her that she’s aggressive and dangerous. This couldn’t be farther from the truth. She’s the sweestest thing and friendly towards everyone, including children and other dogs! Not threatening at all and not a mean bone in her body. I wish people would quit stereotyping and give all dogs a chance. It’s the irresponsible owners they should be fearing–not the dogs!

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  119. November 08, 2008 at 6:17 pm, Guest said:

    I think the “one bad apple spoils a bunch” comment mentioned earlier is probably all we *really* need to hear.

    There are two things I find to be a shame, each on a different side of the “owner vs. tenant argument.”

    #1. Pet owners think property owners are greedy because they charge pet rent. They never stop to think that a single pet can end up costing a property owner thousands. The costs can exceed the amount that a pet owner would be able to pay to keep their pet alive.

    #2. All pet owners are forced to pay for the irresponsible pet owners out there.

    How else do we handle this though? A landlord could make a monthly inspection, to ensure that your pet isn’t urinating, scratching, etc. This might get you out of a deposit but it is going to end up costing you more on a monthly basis because the owner is going to charge you for his/her extra time.

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  120. November 08, 2008 at 6:49 pm, Guest said:

    Non-Refundable… WHY?

    I see very good points for both sides of the fence here.

    I have one question for managers and two points for renters…

    #1. Property managers, why are pet deposits non-refundable? I can understand the pet rent. But a NON refundable deposit? If my pet does not damage a property and this is obvious when I move out, how do you justify keeping my deposit? This seems like either greed or taking advantage of a situation. It seems to me like you are using any tenant’s pet to make up for other pets. You don’t do this with tenants (i.e., security deposits ARE refunded when no damage is found and the lease is not broken), why pets?

    #2. Renters. Please keep in mind that even your “good pet” can be bad. I have a relative who has told me stories about the “best dog she ever owned.” The dog was great. When a few neighborhood kids started prank-ringing her doorbell during the day when nobody was home, the dog started peeing. It was removed from the home before the cause was known, unfortunately. The POINT is that no matter how many times you say “it’s a well behaved animal,” you can not guarantee that the animal WILL indeed be well behaved in all situations. My cat has always been well behaved, aside from the couple times he’s managed to find himself in the bathroom when the shower was turned on! He also found himself in a hotel room one night due to an emergency- you want to talk about BAD… I should have left him in his carrier all night.

    #3. I see a lot of people saying that the cost of renting with pets is too high. Some say this is the reason why they sneak their pets into their property. *AHEM* The cost is too high? Remind me again WHY YOU ARE RENTING? Did you ever, for a SECOND, stop to think that perhaps, just MAYBE, the cost of owning a property is… well… HIGH? Granted, the market has tumbled but the cost of REPAIRING A PROPERTY is still high, so I hope you get the point. One property manager shared his itemized expenses with us- nearly $3,000 in lost revenue due to cats alone. If owners did nothing to offset those losses, they would not be able to own much longer and the new owner would probably crack down on pet owners. This is business we’re talking about.

    Now, I do see this last point, #3 as a good reason for the non-refundable pet rent. In this case, pet owners would indeed be paying for the behavior of bad pets. Well, we’re pet owners. We love our pets and many of us love animals in general. We need to do what we need to do. Until we come up with a BETTER way to protect property managers we’re just going to have to accept this as the best way for us to have pets in rental properties.

    For me, that means paying a bit of extra money (nothing compared to a few pet operations). For others, that means being dishonest and breaking agreements.

    Let’s think about that for a second… if a property owner doesn’t allow pets, then chances are the only pet owners he or she deals with are dishonest ones. In effect, YOU, the “sneaking pet owners,” are bad apples in the bunch of “pet owners” since those property managers likely have the words “untrustworthy” and “pet owner” right next to each other in their head. More simply, sneaking pet owners ruin it for honest pet owners and bad pets ruin it for good pets.

    Luckily honest pet owners and good pets find a way to get over it. I bet most of us are right-wing ;).

    There’s my two cents.

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  121. November 08, 2008 at 6:56 pm, Guest said:

    Thanks for educating us about dumb people. I never realized exactly how dumb some people could be! After reading your comment I realize that the degree of dumbness in this world far outweighs anything I’ve ever even thought to be possible. I’m amazed at the dumbness. I think it’s even spreading… Be careful how much of that dumbness you share with people!

    Thanks again.

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  122. November 08, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Guest said:

    I think it’s the fault of the people with cat allergies, honestly. Can’t they just deal with it?

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  123. November 08, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Guest said:

    I agree 100%. Lots extra.

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  124. November 09, 2008 at 9:24 pm, Guest said:

    Exactly…we have a chow the most aggressive next to pit bulls right? Well I walk my dog and we had those little 2pound dogs run up to my dog, I picked my dog up and those mutts were jumping up on my leg to get to my 35 pound dog. Those little dogs are the worse and the next time those 2 come after my dog I am kicking them since the stupid owner has no control over their dogs. I hate that I control mine but, others don’t. Our dog doesn’t go up to anyone or any dog and we don’t allow it. But, stupid people want to ask does she bite? Duh all dogs bite idiot.

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  125. November 09, 2008 at 9:27 pm, Guest said:

    We snuck our dog and a hater neighbor complained but, it was fine we had months of free doggy rent. This is not true you have many nosey neighbors that care about others. We have never befriended neighbors, dont’ care what you pay, how many visitors you have, or doggies but, they always complain about us. I think because we dont’ socialize with neighbors. So what don’t trust me vice versa we are not friends. By the way we snuck our doggie in and someone told but, who cares? We were not getting rid of our baby. Our lease allows pets but, yes one time I snuck in my cocker when doggies were not allowed so what folks do it all the time. ONce they found out we were moving anyways..YOu shouldn’t worry about what your neighbors sneak in and vice versa mind your own business.

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  126. November 09, 2008 at 9:29 pm, Guest said:

    That is it right there your neighbors mind their business. We have a doggy and for months nothing and all of sudden we get a letter from management that they are aware of a dog in the apt. Hello they didn’t find this out on their own but, some nosey neighbors and my motto is karma and it did no good. We can afford the dep paid it, afford the extra rent paid it….But, our baby barks and now that they know we let her bark all she wants (to a certain degree) since the cat is out of the bag.

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  127. November 09, 2008 at 9:31 pm, Guest said:

    I think the nerve to charge more of a dep for our babies than resident deposits….I would never move anywhere that said no pets or I had to get rid of my baby something is wrong with people that do that. Yes, our babies and they don’t get rid of some of the human brats. But, to allow kids and not pets is crazy…pets are easier and cheaper and more manageable.

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  128. November 09, 2008 at 9:33 pm, Guest said:

    Honey fleas are just there. How do you know your pets don’t have fleas? It is your landlord’s responsiblity to take care of that regardless of the previous tenant.

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  129. November 09, 2008 at 9:39 pm, Guest said:

    sorry but, maintenance well ones with a life and not jealous of your place will not tell. It is mostly the neighbors complaining about barking only because you may come in/out with shopping bags, grocery bags, new furniture, etc believe me it was us. Both of us are college graduates, nice cars, shop weekly for food and clothing, etc….we got new furniture back to back and then a complaint. We dont’ befriend anyone just the maintance guys. We are here to live not make friends. I snuck in a dog at a place for like 5 years so you guys are not as smart as you say…5 years before they found out. The manager lived down the hall too.

    Regarding the breeds like I posted I had 2 little terriers come after my Chow. We don’t mingle our dog with others, nor allow anyone to come close to her. Our dog hasn’t bitten anyone. We will not buy a home just because of apt complexes not allowing her. ALL dogs are agressive.

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  130. November 10, 2008 at 9:07 am, Guest said:

    Hey idiot, wake up! If you get busted and evicted for having a pet in your apartment illegally and then make the situation worse by allowing your pet to cause damage, you will pay the price. For one thing, the landlord will charge you for the damages and any costs it takes for repairs. This includes carpet replacement ($1,000-$2,000) and anything else it takes to get the apartment in rentable condition again. Secondly, just because you don’t list the apartment on your rental history, doesn’t mean your next potential landlord won’t find out. Your previous addresses show up on your credit report. If you get evicted, it’s generally because your landlord has received a judgement against you in the local court system for the violation. This too will come up on your credit report. If you cause damages and don’t pay for them, your prior landlord will place you for collections. Wow! So much for not listing that landlord on your rental history! Guess who won’t want to rent to you then? Any other landlord with an apartment worth renting. It’s called Karma!

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  131. November 10, 2008 at 10:59 am, Guest said:

    Pets are cleaner than most kids… So why do they not pay deposits for children. I have two small dogs in my apartment. I crate them when I am not home and watch them when I am. They do not pee or poop in the building and I pick up their waste when I walk them. Now if people would do the same for there children. It amazes me at what parents let their kids do. Spill things, color things, and are plain dirty. I would rather live in a complex full of animals, that traching children leaving there toys and trach every where. But where is their deposit?

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  132. November 10, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Guest said:

    If you have problems with a tenant and the damage that she or her pets did to a property, then the reasonable thing to do is to take her to court for the damages. Instead, complex managers charge good pet owners for the damage done by filthy slobs. It is just not an honest way to do business.

    I was informed by a lawyer very recently that a pet “deposit” that is not refundable is not a deposit at all, and any renter has a case against their property owner if they pay something referred to as a “deposit” where no portion is available for refund once the terms of the lease are met.

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  133. November 10, 2008 at 3:15 pm, Guest said:

    I have a 5 pound dog and an 8 pound Siamese cat(both are 8 years old). Both have been with me since babyhood. I have rented the last fews years, and always pay the fees to have them with me. I hide nothing. But…they cause no damage at all. I pick up my dog’s poops. No one has ever complained about my pets. When I move, I get a clean bill from management. But one place charged me $400, non-refundable, the other charged me $600, non-refundable, for the priviledge of having my pets with me. Why? I can see charging, to offset damage. But when they admit that my place is so clean they can rent it the next day, why not refund the pet fees???

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  134. November 10, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Guest said:

    Don’t forget that your address will show on your credit report, and that apartment managers do talk to one another. So your approach will catch up with you…

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  135. November 10, 2008 at 3:58 pm, Guest said:

    I rented a house and asked the landlord if I would be allowed to have (animals) in the house. She informed me that it would depend on the animals temperament and that there would be a deposit required.

    She never inquired about what type of animals or how many. I had two animals at that time. One black lab and a cat. I let her meet the dog since I figured that would be the only animal she would worry about. (That, and we lived four hours away from where we were moving and I was NOT going to take my cat with me until it was absolutely necessary).

    She agreed to let me have animals in the house with a deposit of $600.00 on top of the deposit for the house of $1250.00. Later she found out that I had the cat as well and informed me that I was within violation of my lease.

    I didn’t see it as a problem since I had asked her prior if it would be OK if I had ANIMALS at the house and since I had paid my NON-refundable deposit. I didn’t specify just one animal, and I wasn’t being devious. I just figured that she wouldn’t have an issue with a full-grow altered cat that was completely house trained.

    It annoys me that landlords think that they can get angry or demand more money depending on how many pets and what type of pets you have. And I don’t believe in breed restrictions. That is RIDICULOUS!

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  136. November 11, 2008 at 7:25 am, Guest said:

    And I am for the no screaming, yakking, crying, annoying, kids policy! I need my peace and quiet. Most dogs don’t scream at the top of their lungs for hours on end when they don’t get their way. Plus, dogs don’t put there snotty little fingers where they’re not supposed to.

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  137. November 11, 2008 at 7:30 am, Guest said:

    “It’s what male dogs do…”

    That’s a load of bull! You can train your dogs (yes, even male dogs) to go outside. I have both genders, the male is still intact, which makes the situation you mention even more interesting. But they understand the difference between living space and outside.

    Dogs don’t defecate and urinate in their own beds unless they are they are really forced to, be it by age, sickness, or simply bad training.

    Take your dogs for more walks! The air will do you some good too.

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  138. November 11, 2008 at 11:23 am, Guest said:

    My complex charges a pet deposit and pet rent for a fish. It is ridiculous. My family has a bunny at home, and my boyfriend and I want to get one as well for our apartment. It’s a 5 pound max. bunny and they pretty much stay in their cage. We are considering sneaking it in, it’s not like they need to go outside. So frustrating. Come on, dorm rooms allow fish, hamsters, rabbits, etc. An apartment can’t even allow that? Pet deposit for a fish, that sits in its tank all day and never comes out unless you are cleaning the tank…what damage will they do? Make the cheap carpet soggy for an hour or two if they fall?

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  139. November 11, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Guest said:

    One point is being missed. I think some tennants may feel justified in flouting the rules because the rules are made and enforced by landlords and property managers, who are viewed as among the most corrupt, money-mad, ruthless and dishonest sub-species in existence.

    While some landlords are honest folk who provide a service and deserve to have their property treated with respect, the bulk of them are hardened criminals who belong behind bars where they are no longer able to prey on society.

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  140. November 11, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Guest said:

    I used to think it was no big deal to sneak a cat, but since then my views have changed. I have in the past snuck in a cat into an apartment complex that didn’t allow pets. I didn’t have a pet when I first moved in, but got a cat later on when I still had about 5 months left in the lease. I didn’t get caught, but I wouldn’t do it again. You are risking way too much to sneak a pet-you could be charged a huge fine or evicted. I did get lucky about not getting caught, but it’s a risk i’m not willing to take again. My cat didn’t do any damage to our apartment, and when we moved out we owed nothing.

    For my current place, I had to shop around quite extensively to find an apartment that didn’t charge $700 or more for a non-refundable pet deposit and $15-$30 monthly “pet rent.” I finally found a place that charged just $199 non-refundable pet deposit and no pet rent.

    I think that pet deposits should be refundable if no damage has been done by your pet. Just like regular deposits. I don’t think it’s fair to punish all renters with pets for the occaisional nightmare pet that destroys the walls/carpets.

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  141. November 11, 2008 at 9:19 pm, Guest said:

    Well keep your two cents. I do agree there are dishonest people, but not dishonest pet owners. Rents are high this is because houses are high, please do not feel pity for the poor starving landlords, they charge high rent to cover their costs. As for the no pet landlord rule it is not a law, they have no right to tell peolple how to live, any one or thing is capable of wrecking an apartment, thats why we pay rent to cover all costs and oh don’t forget the security deposit which would be kept in the event of damages

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  142. November 11, 2008 at 11:16 pm, Guest said:

    YOU are the reason the rest of us pet owners have a hard time. Your attitude of throwing away $500. a month & tearing up the apartment is very indicitive of the kind of person your really are. I can only hope any good leasing agent could spot your kind a mile away as you cost the rest of us money & good will. Do you really think that will not show up on your rental history? I suppose you don’t pay your bills either & think that won’t show up on your credit history. What a moron!

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  143. November 11, 2008 at 11:55 pm, Guest said:

    My apartment complex allows pets and initially, I did what I was told to do and paid the $35/month pet rent for my 15lb, crate-trained dog. Eventually, I started talking to neighbors and finding out half of them didn’t pay the pet rent because they just didn’t tell management they had a pet. So I told them when I wen home for the holidays my dog would stay at my parents’ permanently and they removed him from the lease. There are so many apartments and dogs here that management doesn’t know anyone by name or apartment number, so I don’t even worry about them seeing me taking my dog for a walk. The only thing I refrain from doing is bringing my dog into the office when I drop off my rent check. We had a scare last year, because my roommate filled out a maintenance request and where it asked if she had a pet, she checked yes by accident, forgetting they didn’t know we had one. They sent us a notice saying get rid of the dog or start paying rent and I told them I was just babysitting the dog for the night and I apologized. It’s never been a problem since. He doesn’t bark or destroy things, so the neighbors would never have a reason to call and complain, therefore no one has to know. The maintenance guys even pet him when they come to fix something – they don’t know which apartments pay pet rent! I think apartments should be allowed to charge a pet deposit, but not pet rent. He is not burdening anyone but me (and he’s not a burden!) and he has not destroyed the property or apartment and I clean up after him outside, so I refuse to pay $35/month for him.

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  144. November 12, 2008 at 10:41 am, Guest said:

    I’ve been sneaking 2 small dogs -who are very well trained to hide in bag in and out of our luxury building for the past year. it’s getting tough though. the super who lives on the first floor saw one pop thier head out of the bag on the camera in the elevator. we tried to get a letter from a psycologist staying the dogs are special needs for depression – but didn’t fly. in my opnion,if you are decent renters who pay a lot of rent on time and are responsible-who the fuck cares if you have a pet.especially 2 very gorgeous animals!

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  145. November 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Guest said:

    There are pretty high cleaning fee’s as well my friend. You have to leave apartments like you recieved them other than normaal wear and tear!

    Sorry!

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  146. November 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm, Guest said:

    Ilive in a strict no pet complex. All you have to do is get a medical necessity note from your doctor stating your cat or dog is a companion to you for reasons such as depression, anxiety, calming. The landlord has to let you keep your pet in this case. Your doctor will not refuse to do this unless they are not nice. This info was given to me by the rental manager in my complex and it is used often in order to keep your pet

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  147. November 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Guest said:

    I lived in an apartment and snuck my cat in for almost two years. He was already littered trained, and declawed. He never once had an accident. The landlords had no idea and we recieved our whole deposit back. It wasn’t hard to sneak him in, however, he is a very well behaved cat who doesn’t meow very often and was litter boxed trained before moving into the apartment. The worst part was when we gave our notice that we were moving and they began to show the apartment. At all times of the day either my husband or I would recieve a phone call from the landlord saying they were coming to show the apartment. We had to frantically run home, sneak the cat outside, hide all of his belongings inside, and leave the complex until the landlord left. That got old real quick, however we were lucky and they rented the apartment fairly quickly.

    We are now looking at renting another apartment and it’s such a pain to even find an apatment that allows pets. Most managers in our city wont even give it a second chance, they just simple say no. I could understand the need for a pet deposit – as long as we can get it back if no damage is done. But like many of you said, why do I have to pay an extra 30 bucks a month per cat in rent? This makes ne sense.

    We found a pet-friendly apartment finally. However, they have ridiculous fees. We are planning on sneaking our cats into here. The neighboor’s do not know if you are paying extra for your cat or not. Hopefully they will never make the connection.

    But as a side not- not wanting to pay for stupid fees does not make me or any other pet owener a bad one. I love my cats more than anything and will do anything for them. however, I do not see the point in paying stupid fees to some big business that wants to make more money off of us. If my cat’s damage something, you will be sure I will pay and fix that. However- until that happens, I will not being paying extra money to the already extreme rent rates!

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  148. November 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm, Guest said:

    You’re a dirty filthy pig and the EXACT reason landlords have every right to worry about accepting pets. What backwoods town are you living in for only $500/month? You must be pretty ignorant to think that the landlord’s not going to sue you… you will have a judgement on your credit report even if you don’t list that on your rental history. You must be dumb. I feel sorry for your dog for being smarter than his owner.

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  149. November 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm, Guest said:

    Your comments show that you are disgusting, irresponsible individual who does not seem to care about where you live or the people who live around you! Hopefully, you will never live in my building or be my neighbor.

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  150. November 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm, Guest said:

    What an idiot you are. Let me tell you, Property Management is a good, solid career and you work very hard every day.

    Let me tell you, property managers are NOT viewed as the most corrupt dishonest sub species in existence – 99% of them are extremely honest and hard working people who, like the rest of working America, have bills to pay and kids to feed.

    Who are you to pass some cocky assessment on an industry that is needed throughout the country.

    And what do you do for a living?

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  151. November 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm, Guest said:

    Everyone talks about rights. The fact is, rights are very limited in apartments. Basically only what they can’t legally discriminated against–age, gender, race, etc. A landlord can set whatever rules he wants because he is a property owner. If you disagree with the rules, you have the right to leave the property and that’s about it. He’s not saying you don’t have the right to own a cat. He’s saying that as a condition of your lease agreement, you may not keep the cat in the apartment. Your legal choices are to comply or live elsewhere.

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  152. November 12, 2008 at 11:11 pm, Guest said:

    Seriously some excellent points! Now lets do taxes and writes offs for the landlord for depreciation cuts and upgrades that come out of tenants pockets. Its the tenants that create the revenue that is used for tax shelter purpose. So next time a person rents and has a pet, who by the way, firefighters say are great at warning of fires and hazards long before the smoke detector goes off :) The Disability Act also allows for seeing eye dogs and special needs animals in developments without deposit charges. Its more detailed then what I wrote but research it. My relative had to have the animal trained and that in itself was an investment, but luckily the Federal govt stepped in a created some solid rules for special needs folks who require service animals. Landlords (non private ones) need to brush up on their regulations before asserting fees. It may be more then the pet that comes back to bite them :)

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  153. November 13, 2008 at 10:08 am, Guest said:

    You should remind your landlord that the Americans with Disabilities Acts requires a tenant to request a reasonable accommodation for a “Companion Animal”. A Companion Animal is not a pet as it assist a person with a disability (ie:p depression). If your landlord denies your request for a reasonable accommodation you have the makings of a great FEDERAL lawsuit on your hands.

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  154. November 13, 2008 at 5:27 pm, Guest said:

    That’s stupid, because your apartment history is tied to your credit report! Landlords can run your credit report AND a residence report, where they can see if you have bad credit and if you’ve ever been evicted or forclosed.

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  155. November 14, 2008 at 11:12 am, Guest said:

    I have a chow mix, and I had two chow mixes for 15 years before that, and two Samoyeds for years before that. I’ve never attempted to hide my dogs, and I’ve seen plenty of places that have refused to rent to me because of my dogs, and the places that would rent have always wanted a non-refundable pet deposit.

    Here’s the thing – apartment owners/house owners who chose to rent their apartments/houses do not HAVE to rent to everyone who walks in and wants to rent from them. You have a right to own your pets, they have a right not to rent to you. The places that do rent to people with pets frequently charge non-refundable pet deposits and pet rents, not just to cover the costs of cleaning after the pets move out, but to discourage pet owners from renting there, and in the hope that if someone loves their pet enough to pay the deposit and to pay pet rent, they will take care of that pet and clean up after it.

    I guess, under the theories that I have read here, if I disagree with anything I can just choose to do what I want and forget about everybody else’s rights. I guess if one person doesn’t clean up after their pet, that gives me, and everyone else the right not to clean up after THEIR pets. And just how long, do you think, before THAT complex changes to a NO pets allowed policy? How long before YOU’RE complaining about not being able to walk anywhere without getting poop on your shoes and the stench and flies that are all around you?

    I love my dogs. I won’t live without them, but my rights end where someone else’s begin. I have the right to have my pets, but I don’t have any rights to live wherever I choose. I choose to live somewhere that allows me to have my pets, and I’ll respect their rules and regulations, whether I think they’re being fair to me or not. (My dogs don’t chew, bark, or pee/poop in the house, either – and my chow/mixes have never met a person that they thought was a stranger – hell, the only problem I have had with any of them is that they’ll let ANYBODY into the house/apartment and LICK them to death!)

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  156. November 14, 2008 at 2:50 pm, Guest said:

    My kids don’t do that either. Kinda funny how these pet owners would rather defend a stupid animal than another human being.

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  157. November 14, 2008 at 9:39 pm, Guest said:

    I live in an apartment and I pay the pet rent that is required for me to have my 16 year old cat. The complex allows cats and dogs, but dogs are only allowed in certain buildings. My building is a no dogs building and I have seen many neighbors in the building sneak in dogs. Of course, they are caught because they are seen by security and other neighbors bringing the dogs into the building and also you can hear the barking! I don’t believe it is fair at all that I am following the rules to live here and having others break the rules and think they can get by with it!

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  158. November 15, 2008 at 12:47 pm, Guest said:

    15 Nov 08
    1. No, it is not OK to have pets in a NO PET apartment. (100% of us reading this already know that).
    2. 10-15% of humans have cat allergies. Approx 60% of people with asthma, have cat allergies.
    3. Old wives’ tale – newborns should not be in the same room with cats because the cats “sucking life from a child by swallowing its breath” killing them. Respiratory problems are common reactions to cats. Newborns would be most susceiptble to respiratory distress.
    4. Children might not be present when a parent visits a potential apartment and once everyone is moved in, the child suffers.
    5. YES, report pets. The money you save by cheating is not worth the respiratory distress caused to others. (Pet dander is on carpets, walls, air ducts, etc. New paint/carpet/etc. helps a little, but someone with allergies will still have negative, respiratory reactions.)

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  159. November 16, 2008 at 1:41 am, Guest said:

    Exact thing happened to me. I had 2 Labs that look alike in my apartment and I only paid a deposit for one thinking the complex wouldn’t know because they never see my dogs anyways. Our neighbors are the only ones that go to community meetings here and told the managers and soon after I got a letter saying they were aware of me having 2 pets, that neighbors had seen them, and that I needed to get rid of it in 7 days or I would be kicked out. I still have my other Lab I just lied about getting rid of it. I guess my neighbors think we paid the deposit because it’s been months and months now since we’ve heard anything about it. They are two-faced and if you say something to them they will go tell but are nice to your face. My motto is the karma too. They take their dog off-leash in the tennis court which isn’t allowed and guess who is going to tell?! My dogs never bark or anything so why did they feel the need to tell??

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  160. November 16, 2008 at 1:49 am, Guest said:

    Exactly. I paid a $300 non-refundable deposit for my Lab who has never went to the bathroom inside, only chews on his own toys, and he even sleeps most of the time. I also have to pay $25 pet rent per month. My last apartment had a $200 refundable fee that I got back completely. I had no other choice then to rent an apartment with a pet deposit and pet rent in the area I live in. I looked and looked and never found a single one with a refundable deposit. Most even had $500 non-refundable ones! What is the reason for a non-refundable deposit? It’s a complete rip off!!!

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  161. November 16, 2008 at 10:39 am, Guest said:

    Hi. I read all these great comments and stories, and I have learned a lot. Thank you.
    I have not slept for days.
    My complex has a No Pet Rule. I learned that in 1997 when I had to surrender my Beloved Cat to Animal Rescue or move. For a sizeable donation they guaranteed to put her up for Adoption.
    Anyway, recently my 101 year old Aunt passed away. She had a beautiful Male Cat, who will be 3 years old, who has had all his shots, is neutered, and is trained, and does not scratch anything in the home, and does not go outside.
    When my Aunt passed away I offered to take him home with me.
    Because I have two neighbors, one with a Cat, and one with a Terrier, I ‘presumed’ that Management had changed its policy regarding pets.
    Now, I just received a letter, after my apartment was painted last week. Apparently, one of the Painter’s told Management about Billy.
    So, I got a letter Friday that it’s me or Billy, obviously. I have been sick to my stomach.
    My Lease says: No pets ‘without written consent of Management’. I signed my lease 19 years ago, and do not recall the ‘written permission’ clause.
    I was told they will be here on the 21st of November to be sure Billy is ‘gone’.
    I am disabled, depressed, and anxious, and I don’t know where to turn.
    Is it too late for me to ask for ‘written consent’?, if I tell Management how Billy came to be here?
    Thank you for listening.

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  162. November 16, 2008 at 9:38 pm, Guest said:

    some of us do not desire to move in behind animals of any kind, and the apartments have to be cleaned professionally to prptect from allergies of previous tenants.
    PLUS-sneaking is illegal as handicap parking.
    explain that to your local handicap person at the mall on Christmas?

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  163. November 17, 2008 at 1:00 pm, Guest said:

    I think pet rent is fine. Pay it, and then don’t worry at all if your pet messes up the place – that’s what you paid the rent for! I’m laughing at the property company where the cat sprayed the whole apartment and they’re whining about how it cost soooo much to clean it up – just count that out of the money that your well-behaved pet owners pay you. If you have a pet, don’t pick up after it outside – the apartments can do that, since that’s what you’re paying for. Pet rent is fine, just make sure you take advantage of every cent you pay.

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  164. November 17, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Guest said:

    >”I am for the NO PETS policy because from what I’ve >seen pet owners are the most disgusting people who >let their animals $hit and pi$$ everywhere and can’t >even be bothered to take care of the animals they >supposedly love so much.”

    Hey princess, guess what? Do you think that your ten month old at the time didn’t slobber, puke and pi$$ everywhere? Sounds rather judgmental and one-sided to me, if we applied the same rules to you, you would be complaining about the unfair practice as well! I’d far rather crawl in dog puke than the slobber from your parasite!

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  165. November 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Guest said:

    There is a rule regarding a “companion animal” that will maybe help you. A “Companion Animal” is any animal that is considered necessary for the well-being of a resident due to a disability, i.e. a seeing eye dog or maybe in your case “you suffer from depression and your cat is your companion animal necessary for your mental well-being”, all you have to do is get a Doctor to write a letter that states this and the Lanlord has to allow it AND they can’t charge you a deposit or “pet rent” when your pet is a “Companion Animal”

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  166. November 18, 2008 at 3:36 pm, Guest said:

    If you were a resident at my community, you would first be fined for your ignorance and then possibly evicted. Not cleaning after your pet is rude to others and makes you look like an irresponsible jerk. I’m sure this is not your first time being called that.

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  167. November 18, 2008 at 3:49 pm, Guest said:

    You don’t have a clue what it means to be a responsible citezan.

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  168. November 18, 2008 at 4:19 pm, Guest said:

    Breed restrictions ridiculous??? Tell that to a family who has lost a child due to irresponsible pet owners with a violent breed of dog. It doesn’t matter what you beleive or what has annoyed you. There are rules that must be followed. Don’t like pet policies? MOVE!!!

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  169. November 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Guest said:

    Lanlords DO have the right to tell you what is allowed at that property. It’s THEIR property. Why have we become an entitlement society?? If you don’t OWN your apartment, you are subject to their rules. Get it? Grow up and stop being a victim.

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  170. November 18, 2008 at 4:40 pm, Guest said:

    You sir (or maam) have posted the most intellegent comment I have read so far. Cheers.

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  171. November 20, 2008 at 10:44 am, Guest said:

    Some of these comments really solidify my thought that there is no hope left for the human race.

    Re: “companion” animals and SD’s…
    My spouse has an obvious visible handicap (foot/ ankle deformity) with no hope of recovery and the expectancy for significant further deterioration to the limb and what is left of the bones. He requires the use of a mobility service animal at times to keep mobile. Backtrack for a moment- the apartment complex we resided in prior to moving to this —-hole wasnt the greatest, but they were accommodating with his need for a MSD. The cite we lived in at the time required minimal documentation regarding his condition and we were able to sign the lease with his “aggressive” breed (Siberian Husky) MSD on the lease with no fees or pet rent. Now we have moved cross country due to my job and have been put through the rig-a-ma-roo because this state and city has strict and stringent rules regarding breeds, weight, and what animals can be considered SD’s of any kind. Long story short, we are paying a $30 pet rent per month because he lacked the “supporting documentation” required by the rental community to exempt my spouses trained MSD, $432/ year that we really dont have in the first place as we are legally living in reduced HUD housing. The complex was not willing to give us a grace period to get supporting documentation for his MSD and demanded we pay the pet rent or they would not rent to us. “Getting rid” of my spouses MSD was not an option; it is a way of life for him. At 6-5, 350 lbs, if he falls, who is going to help him up? Certainly not 120lb, me. His MSD’s breed is designed for pulling large amounts if weight, hence the “sled dog” stereotype. To be expected to give up a necessity to his life or pay a fee to keep his key to mobility is selfish disgusting. Would you require someone with a cane or a walker to pay up the ass? NO. The sad part of this is really the fact that he is expected to pay a —load of money to work with a doctor to become a guinea pig for a variety of tests to “prove” to the state that he is indeed needing mobility assistance , where for the last 33 years in a different city, different state, minimal was needed.
    While I feel that some type of regulation is needed for pets in apartments, I think that in extreme cases, management ought to be willing to work with their potential tenants and not just see them as a number to up their fill rates. You cold hearted sons of bitches know exactly who you are, dont pull the excuse that it is your job in the line. Yes, the people who allow their dogs to — and piss all over the premises need to be fined, along with those who stuff cat litter in the drains and clog them up. So for all you apartment managers who feel that us tenants are being a pain in the ass or shifty when just asking for a way to make reasonable accommodations to a less than envious set of circumstances, frankly, — you too.

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  172. November 20, 2008 at 1:25 pm, Guest said:

    There should be a child deposit in most apartment complexes. This way I would know that the screaming, worthless children that are running around the complex, annoying everyone, cost their owners more money.
    I especially love seeing that I moved into an apartment where the parents let their children handle their own food and drinks, so that there are huge stains of god-knows-what (probably fruit juice drinks), permanently stained all over the carpet, which the apartment complex sometimes attributes to being normal wear and tear just because there was a child living there. Toddlers and small children are 100 times worse, and more annoying, than any well trained animal. Who knows where those things have defecated. Children are disgusting.

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  173. November 20, 2008 at 5:30 pm, Guest said:

    The ‘rule’ as you stated incorrectly says you are not allowed to charge a pet deposit but the manager CAN charge pet rent. If you are a NO PET community you do not have to accept companion animals (or their owners) period.

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  174. November 20, 2008 at 9:15 pm, Guest said:

    I agree that pet owners have to be responsible and train their animals to be clean and clean up after them. However, I don’t understand why it’s so hard to find an apartment that allows pets when children are so much MORE filthy and parents with filthy children are much more numerous than filthy pet owners. Dogs bark and should be trained not to, but after living under obese kids that thunder around wrestling and chasing each other, I would probably choose the dogs. If there are laws protecting renters with kids, then there should be laws protecting renters with pets.

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  175. November 21, 2008 at 2:12 am, Guest said:

    i have a chow and have the same problem. she is perfectly behaved, quiet, friendly and sweet and never barks. she would never damage anything and is so ladylike i have to walk her at least a block from where we live to get her to pee. some horrid people somewhere want to categorize chows as a vicious breed simply because there have been some cases of abused chows being kept for fighting, etc and biting. other breeds like dalmations and labs have much higher statistics for biting and yet they are not on the vicious breeds list. it’s completely unreasonable and unfair. and all the tiny, yapping, destructive, nasty little toy dogs that go to the bathroom every where every ten minutes, bark for hours and hours and viciously snap at my dogs face when she meets them while she stands there innocently are allowed? stinky cats who ruin an entire apt the first day with their urine smell are fine?
    so i have to lie and try to pass her off as another breed. i pay the extra deposits and everything even though she just sits on her bed and doesnt even shed. why not charge a deposit for little screaming children who will spill juice all over the carpet or tear up all the plants? or for smokers who burn the curtains and ash everywhere??

    it’s all just a scam to make money, like the extra costs for a parking spot, and everything else they try to tack on. i’d rather die then give up my chow and i hate the whole industry of property management. someone above was saying what a noble profession it was, lol, it’s a completely untrained job you get off craigslist with no eduation or credentials necessary.

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  176. November 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm, Guest said:

    You are wrong. If you take one chow you have to take them all and far from all Chows are nice.

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  177. November 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm, Guest said:

    Thankfully, I don’t have to put up with this in the two units I lease out. Both have rock solid no-pet’s clauses, but I will allow clause-waiver for a cat, if the damage deposit is doubled and a mandatory carpet cleaning fee on exit is provided.

    Dog’s are very destructive and many dog owners seem to have substitued their dogs for having kids and won’t hear any wrong about Rex.

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  178. November 21, 2008 at 10:44 pm, Guest said:

    You are absolutely right. I posted before about the MSD situation and while Federal law does not require disclosure, many states have renters codes that contradict this. Its very hard to find affordable housing in a time crunch when your lease is close to expiring while being able to get it through the heads of these totalitarian rental communities that it IS ILLEGAL to request documentation. Threatening to call a lwayer if they dont rent to you doesnt work so unless you want to risk being homeless, in our experience, it is easier to be called and liar and a fraud and sign the lease and pay the deposit. I WISH we didnt have to, though, but until someone can make an example out of these monsters, we have to do what we have to do for a roof over our heads.

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  179. November 22, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Guest said:

    And you don’t have a clue how to spell.

    It’s “citizen”, you imbecile.

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  180. November 22, 2008 at 7:49 pm, Guest said:

    “What an —– you are” ???

    “And what do you do for a living?”

    Well, you are clearly an ignorant —– that —— of —- for a living.

    — Off.

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  181. November 22, 2008 at 8:23 pm, Guest said:

    “Don’t like pet policies? MOVE!!!”

    Really? No two animals are alike and you have NO right to make such presumptions, regardless of breed.

    Keep you brat(s) on a leash, and out of my way and that of my pet(s), get off my rights as a pet owner, and go a eat a bag of —–, you filthy cooz.

    You sound like an ignorant —— that DESERVES to have its —— by an —- poodle.

    Just because.

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  182. November 22, 2008 at 8:53 pm, Guest said:

    I understand your train of thought but, in all honesty, the instances I’ve heard of HUMAN children causing costly destruction to rental properties far outweighs those involving pets.

    Believe-it-or-not, some dear friends of mine had to replace all the carpeting in their rental property, between tenancies, because the earlier tenants simply let their toddlers crap on the floors… and made no kind of effort to adequately clean it up (or prevent the behavior from being repeated). Admittedly, that’s a rare extreme, but I’ve heard countless other stories involving children staining carpets (via spills, etc.), putting holes in walls by throwing open doors that don’t have doorstops, writing/coloring on walls… or disturbing neighbors in adjacent apartments with incessant temper tantrums.

    My cat, on the other hand, was declawed and neutered before I adopted him (and, consequently, does not spray or cause any destruction to property), has NEVER gone to the bathroom anywhere other than his litter box, rarely – if ever – makes a peep, and is primarily ‘nocturnal’, spending 99% of daylight hours sleeping under my bed and out-of-sight, and 99% of evening hours curled-up quietly on my bed.

    Point is, I have NEVER encountered human children in an apartment complex as clean and well-behaved as my cat.

    That’s pretty pathetic, but unfortunately true, and I resent the notion that my clean, well-behaved cat would be barred from (or charged extra to live at) the same property where filthy, obnoxious, undisciplined, unsupervised and destructive children are permitted to run amok without fee or consequence.

    As I type this, the baby of the family in the apartment next to mine is distracting/annoying me with it’s non-stop crying. But *I* should feel guilty about sneaking in a cat that no one’s even aware is here?

    Wrong.

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  183. November 22, 2008 at 8:59 pm, Guest said:

    “some of us do not desire to move in behind animals of any kind”

    Then go live somewhere else, —-. I care less about your ‘desire’ than my cat’s right to a home.

    Let me guess: you’re one of those obnoxious, self-absorbed yuppies that lets your brats run amok in public and defend their equally obnoxious behavior as exercising their right to ‘express themselves’.

    Get an ——, eat a bag of —–, and —– my cat.

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  184. November 22, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Guest said:

    “Grow up and stop being a victim.”

    — Off and stop being a ——. And get off my rights, —–.

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  185. November 22, 2008 at 9:33 pm, Guest said:

    I couldn’t agree more.

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  186. November 22, 2008 at 9:39 pm, Guest said:

    The noisy brat that came out of your clueless —- is worth FAR less than my cat, ——.

    “Stupid animal”? I’m willing to bet money my cat is more intelligent, and more worthy of life, than anything your polluted —— could possibly——.

    Dose of reality: there are JUST as many (if not MORE) irresponsible parents of human children than owners of pets.

    I’ll defend my so-called ‘stupid’ yet clean, quiet and well-behaved animal over your filthy, screaming, undisciplined brat ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, ——.

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  187. November 23, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Guest said:

    Wow, that comment really was a poor idea. Here you are trying to defend your profession as honest and hardworking while being rude and demeaning. It’s not a very good representation. You’ve proved the other guy’s point – that property managers are at least ——, if not corrupt and dishonest.

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  188. November 24, 2008 at 2:07 am, Guest said:

    That is just plain disgusting! I can’t believe you wouldn’t pick up after your pet. Feces carry viruses and germs that can be potentially dangerous, not only to dogs but humans as well. What if a kid came along and stepped in your dog’s crap, then tried to get it off? It got on their hands and clothes and caused them to get sick. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking about not cleaning up after your pets. I don’t even have an animal or child and I report anyone I see to the office if they don’t pick up after there dog. It’s actually illegal in Colorado not to do so because of the potentiality health concerns. Shame on You.

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  189. November 24, 2008 at 5:06 pm, Guest said:

    You have few rights in a private property. Go cry foul somewhere else. You have NO rights to keep a pet in a NO PET property.

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  190. November 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm, Guest said:

    I have the right to presume anything I want to. You on the other hand have ZERO rights when it comes to breed restrictions. If you can’t find an apartment for your rabid pit bull, buy a house. Or please go cry somewhere else. ZERO rights! Understand???

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  191. November 25, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Guest said:

    It sounds like the whole world is against you. Good thing you have your chow to share your misery. You are wrong about prop. management. Most are educated and well trained to deal with people like yourself. Given the amount of spelling and grammar errors in your post, I’d say you lack education. You are a self described hate monger and liar.

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  192. November 25, 2008 at 3:02 pm, Guest said:

    I currently rent an apartment that does not allow pets, only fish. At first I was okay with it but I love animals and decided to get a ferret. He is litter trained and is fixed and descented. Descenting a ferret doesnt mean they dont have a scent, he still has that musking scent but to me it isnt very strong. I’ve had him for about a month now and he never has accidents or tears/breaks anything. He loves to just follow me around the house and sneak into boxes and bags. I dont think management will ever notice. Sometimes I do feel a little guilty because Im not the type to lie or sneak like this but he isnt doing any harm. I think it would be very hard to sneak a dog or cat in unless the cat doesnt meow.

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  193. November 25, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Guest said:

    Sneak em in!

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  194. November 26, 2008 at 1:21 pm, Guest said:

    more than likely you can still keep him if you bring in the vet documentation and pay a pet fee. If they say they need “written consent” then they must allow pets under some circumstances. Just call and ask.

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  195. November 27, 2008 at 1:36 am, Guest said:

    LOL you’ve gotta be kidding me.

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  196. November 30, 2008 at 12:25 pm, Guest said:

    If you are disabled you should be able to get papers to make it a service animal. They can’t evict your animal then.

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  197. December 02, 2008 at 2:11 am, Guest said:

    “many dog owners seem to have substitued their dogs for having kids and won’t hear any wrong about Rex.”
    —– —- —–

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  198. December 05, 2008 at 1:45 pm, Guest said:

    Personally pet rent is paid as a privelage to have your pet live in the apartment. Not for us to clean up your dog crap. You should be ashamed of yourself for not cleaning it up thats just being childish.

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  199. December 14, 2008 at 2:27 pm, Guest said:

    some of you just need to grow up. If you are old enough to move out on your own, then be more responsible. If you cant afford pet rent then I guess you dont need to move or own a pet for that matter. This is the real world. If a landlord charges pet deposits and rent then its to protect the apartment from damages. I do have to say that some children are not distuctive or nasty. I have a 4 year old son and 2 cats. I have raised my to NOT to be distructive or nasty ( it is possiable). Alot of parents now and days are just to lazy to teach their children morals and values. So the child grows up not caring and just does whatever they please. My cats on the other hand do shed and have made a mistake or two on the floor. But its my resposability to keep it clean. I guess what im getting at is, just pay the deposit and the rent, its not a big deal.

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  200. December 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Guest said:

    This blog is out of control. People are who our laws are made for. Inc children. Our society treats all PEOPLE equally. Animals are considered personal property, not people. Therefore they do not have the same rights as people. Let’s not confuse ourselves here. Everyone loves their pets, but there is a responsability to owning them. Just like a car, phone, internet. These are things we have to pay for. These are extras, not necessities. Housing is a necessity, and landlords usually try their best to make the housing comfortable and affordable for their demographic and the area they live in. We all have a choice as to where we live. At our parents, the apartment community we choose, or to purchase our own home. With these choices are limits and rules. Whether their your parents, your landlord, or your own. Maybe when you buy a home and have to pay for the damages or get cited by the health dep. or tickets for dog doo, or have your neighbors hate you, you’ll understand. No one made anyone move into their apartment. Do your research, scope out the neighborhood, talk to people who live there, and stop making excuses.

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  201. January 09, 2009 at 7:56 am, Guest said:

    I don’t have any problems with people’s pets here but the kids are another story! They are allowed to run wild and scream and leave trash everywhere.
    Complaining to management does no good. She whines what can I do but yet she put out flyers asking people to tell on neighbors who don’t clean up after their dogs. How about cleaning up after your kids and not let them bother the neighbors. Oh but then the parents would have to actually watch their offspring which is much too hard.

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  202. January 16, 2009 at 3:25 pm, Guest said:

    First, proofread your responses before posting them. Secondly, this article is not about IF you should pay the pet rent IF there is one. This article is about trying to sneak your pets in the event the landlord tells you no. No to an animal that is too large, or no to any animals. Personally, I would sneak a smaller pet in, but on the other hand, I would be upset if someone were sneaking a pet into my property. You should always work with your landlord when possible. And if they are going to be stubborn and say no, egg their house. (Or find somewhere else to live.)

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  203. February 04, 2009 at 4:24 pm, Guest said:

    I have a question for all the apartment managers that frequent this site…why are Siberian Huskies on the breed restriction list of many apartments? I’m frustrated cause I have a husky and every apartment I come across have huskies on their restriction list. I mean I understand why Pitt Bulls, German Shepherds, ect ect ect are on the list…because they’re aggressive. But huskies? The Siberian Huskies as a breed are VERY friendly dogs…one of the friendliest breeds out there. Why are they restricted?

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  204. February 16, 2009 at 1:58 pm, Sarah said:

    I am a college student and no apartments in the area allow pets at all, trust me I looked every year for 4 years. My apartment building is run by a management company so there is no landlord on premises and no cameras etc. I also plan to puppy pad or litter box train my dog so no need for bathroom breaks outside every 2 hours. I have wanted a Yorkie since I was little and I am graduating in May. My plan is to get one then so I have full days to train her before I start work full time in July. So the only time I would be here with a dog is mid-May-July 1, after this I am moving back home so I am not too worried about being evicted. There are a lot less tenants in the summer because most students go home, but I am still very fearful about keeping her here and risking the maintenance people hearing her bark (I would never train her not to bark). Does anyone have any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation? I am about 50-50 on doing this, but really want to have a dog and know I could offer it a great home. I have already asked the management company and the answer was a flat out no, so I don’t see much room for compromise there. Please help!!

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  205. March 31, 2009 at 6:53 pm, Anonymous said:

    I had to moved into my apartment because it was the cheapest but also still clean & safe for a single woman. There is a ‘no pet policy’ for one bedrooms, which I am living in. My grandmother was taking care of my cat because of this and about 6 months ago she broke her hip and I had no choice but to bring him here with me. (My cat is like my baby, I have been through so much and my cat has been right there with me, he has always been my so called ‘shoulder to cry on’.lol ….everytime I am laying down he has to be right next to me,he would have it no other way.lol He sleeps in my arms under the blankets and follows me around everywhere I go. He is an older, neutered, fat cat and does no harm, I could never give him away)
    Anyways, I just signed another 6 month lease because I cannot afford any other place(I just lost my job and I am ill with no medical insurance)
    Well 3 days ago I had a letter on my door saying that I have 3 days to get rid of my cat! I have no family or friends around to help so I begged them to just let him stay until the end of my lease I offered money etc. but they refused, I really don’t know what to do,If I had the money I wouldn’t even be here! I have been searching the internet about it and it says that they have to get a court order & go through a process to get rid of you if you don’t leave, Did anyone just stay in their apt & tried to ignore the notice in the meantime, & went through this process of being evicted?
    Thanks in advance:)

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  206. March 31, 2009 at 6:55 pm, Mandy said:

    I had to moved into my apartment because it was the cheapest but also still clean & safe for a single woman. There is a ‘no pet policy’ for one bedrooms, which I am living in. My grandmother was taking care of my cat because of this and about 6 months ago she broke her hip and I had no choice but to bring him here with me. (My cat is like my baby, I have been through so much and my cat has been right there with me, he has always been my so called ‘shoulder to cry on’.lol ….everytime I am laying down he has to be right next to me,he would have it no other way.lol He sleeps in my arms under the blankets and follows me around everywhere I go. He is an older, neutered, fat cat and does no harm, I could never give him away)
    Anyways, I just signed another 6 month lease because I cannot afford any other place(I just lost my job and I am ill with no medical insurance)
    Well 3 days ago I had a letter on my door saying that I have 3 days to get rid of my cat! I have no family or friends around to help so I begged them to just let him stay until the end of my lease I offered money etc. but they refused, I really don’t know what to do,If I had the money I wouldn’t even be here! I have been searching the internet about it and it says that they have to get a court order & go through a process to get rid of you if you don’t leave, Did anyone just stay in their apt & tried to ignore the notice in the meantime, & went through this process of being evicted?
    Thanks in advance:)

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  207. April 24, 2009 at 7:32 pm, Das said:

    It’s pretty hard to find places for rent in Podunks-Conservativille, but I’m beginning to think I’d rather just go back home and not attend college if it means dumping my two cats just so I can live in a nice apartment within walking distance of campus.

    There’s enough dead animals on the sides of the read anyways, I’d rather not add both of mine to that pile.

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  208. April 25, 2009 at 1:32 am, PuppyMama said:

    I lived in an apartment in Arizona… it was brand new (I was the first to rent my unit) and very high-class. They allowed animals. I believe I paid a $300 deposit for my shih tzu, then about $25 per month for pet rent.

    Get this, I was incredibly considerate. My poor dog stayed in a crate while I worked all day, and whenever I left. I took her outside and picked up after her 3 times per day. My dog was not EVER allowed on the carpet. Even when I was home, she was confined to the kitchen with one of those baby gates. The apartment was left in pristine condition… I believe she threw up on the carpet once when I was carrying her over it, but I had a bissell steam cleaner and cleaned it up immediately.

    Overall, I paid $600 that year, just to have my dog live with me. We left the premises without any damage at the end of my lease. They had the nerve to stick me with a bill to shampoo the carpets for “pet urine.” The bill was $250 and the letter said that if I didn’t pay it within 5 days of the date of the letter, I’d be sent to collections. Ironically, the post office stamp indicated the letter wasn’t sent until 4 days after the letter written.

    I was never sent to collections but was completely livid they had the nerve to charge me $250 to “shampoo” my perfectly clean carpets and kept my entire $600. What did the deposit and pet rent pay for? This was clearly a scam. They used my honesty (I TOLD them I had a dog) to claim there was urine on the carpet so they could charge me. I paid it to avoid problems… but I was also 23 and afraid of the big company.

    Not only did they rip me off, but my poor little dog suffered as well, and for no reason. I will be honest… this made me so angry and I felt so taken advantage of that I haven’t told my current apartment about my dog. It is dog friendly and everyone has them so I just blend in with the crowd. I stay home all day so it isn’t like she is ever left unattended. Here on the east coast in high-end apartments, people seem to take very good care of their animals.

    Pet owners these days are being unfairly targeted. People are always trying to make money off of MY dog. People assume that just because someone owns a small dog, they have tons of money or something. Let us not neglect to remember the $175 one-way fee on United Airlines that we owners have to pay to have our pets sit under the seats in front of us (in a space we’ve already paid for when we purchased our tickets). What next? Can anyone afford to live anymore??

    This was done to me by Fairfield Properties. They are evil, bad people. :(

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  209. June 02, 2009 at 11:53 am, Joel said:

    Seriously?! I am so sick of people claiming their “right” to have a pet while renting, regardless of policies. Especially when they’re living in complexes that allow pets with a fee. By their logic, I shouldn’t have to pay full rent if I feel its too high? Its my “right” to pay what I feel a place is worth. Or maybe your employer should drop your pay below minimum wage. It’s his “right” to pay you what he feels your worth.

    And I love how some pet-owners feel that their precious Fluffy or their sweetheart Fido doesn’t cause a bit of harm or nusiance to ANYONE! Guess what… your mutt barks. You may think they’re good as gold when your gone, but it is truly a rare dog that doesn’t bark at percieved threats, ie someone sneezing, or opening a refridgerator. Most pets have “accidents”, all of them shed, many get fleas or other parasites. And for every 1 person who claims they pick up their dog’s business, there are 10 who do not. Oh, and do you scrubs their urine off the ground? Or replant anything that may be killed off from their urinating?

    I am always more interested in places with no pets/ high cost for pets. It means I’m less likely to be bothered by the pesky things. If only the same could be done with children! Although with children, theres a slim chance they’ll grow up to be useful to society, or at least contribute to taxes. As much as you may love your doggy and consider it your baby, it will never grow up to actually be a person.

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  210. June 09, 2009 at 12:18 am, Guest said:

    I live in an apartment complex where most of the apartments are owned by their occupants. My rental company recently purchased a few apartments here, one of which is the one we rent. What annoys me is we are forbidden from having pets, yet I have to avoid stepping in dog crap and get chased by pets owned by the other people here who own their apartments. I feel like our carpets and such get more damage just from my husband spilling kool-aid than a trained dog would do. It’s very frustrating.

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  211. June 09, 2009 at 10:54 pm, JA Novo said:

    I have a cat that speaks fluent Chinese (albeit with a Cantonese dialect). Nonetheless, most people are impressed with his ability. My advice is to teach your cat to speak Cantonese then seek out a landlord who was born in the Guangzhou region of China. Statistically you’ll have a better chance at getting a wavier on that “No Pets” rule.

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  212. June 11, 2009 at 1:40 am, JA Novo said:

    It’s so refreshing to hear someone finally put these silly pet owners in their places. You really hit the nail on the head with a clear logical argument while maintaining a positive tone.

    Everything you said is 100% relevant. Kudos, dude. Do you write professionally? You should if you don’t. You could be the Andy Rooney of dogs and cats and start every article with the line, “You know what really bothers me?” Seriously though, you have a real provincial (almost Philistine) approach to communicating. Keep it up!!

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  213. July 10, 2009 at 11:10 pm, Danielle said:

    Ok. To hell with all this aggresive dog crap. I think it is all in how they are treated, and the way they were raised. I have a German Shepard that is the farthest from aggresive there is. The only breed restriction I understand in the slightest bit, is the pit. I think it is wrong to just lable dogs by there breed. Dont get me wrong, im not a crazy person that thinks my dog is a person. He knows his place. I just dont think its fair to say, “sure dogs are welcome, just not that one. Its too aggresive.”Apartments suck. And to the a$$holes who say kids shouldnt be allowed….your all doosh bags. If you had any intelligence at all, you would know its not the children that are destructive, and nasty, its the parents that raised them.

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  214. July 22, 2009 at 1:53 pm, Christina said:

    For almost a year we hid 2 cats in a community that allowed pets but charged a large deposit and extra monthly per pet. Plus it wasn’t clear if we were allowed to have 2 pets since the rule said per tenant and in this college community each tenant usually had his/her own bedroom but my bf and I were in a 1 bedroom apt (both names on the lease though). I’m sure the staff would have been happy to accept the extra money from me and allow 2 pets in a 1 bedroom but we decided not to ask. We got away with hiding them but if I did it again I would just pay because of the extra hassle and stress.

    We had already been living in the apt a couple months before we got the cats so we were able to look at our lease and see that if we were caught, the first time was only a warning and fee. This community always gave you some advanced notice before pest inspections, maintenance etc. Still this meant packing them up and taking them to a friend or relatives house each time. And hiding toys, food etc.

    So check your lease for the details, but it may not be worth the risk (or the stress of taking a risk).

    If you can, take advantage of the first time home buyer’s credit this year and become your own landlord. Your monthly mortgage payment could still be less than you pay for rent, especially considering extra charges for having pets!

    —–

    And a comment on the dog breed restrictions, encourage the use of standardized certification for responsible dog owners instead of restricting them.

    If you are in that situation try talking with the landlord to explain that you are a responsible dog owner to relieve concern about your dog’s breed. Maybe they can make an exception. Bring paperwork to back you up. Keep trying! Good luck.

    http://www.akc.org/public_education/responsible_dog_owner.cfm

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  215. July 22, 2009 at 8:37 pm, Ecila said:

    Yep, until we change our attitudes about ourselves as human beings, and about our world, including our beloved pets…there will be people taking advantage of others’ disadvantages. I am of the belief that if one must pay extra rent for a pet, then there should be a child-rent. Perhaps there should be a “smoker” rent, or a violence-rent, or any other illnesses/habits we humans are prone to which either causes us to neglect our responsibilities or simply causes us to be more prone to making a mess–rent?!?! I have seen many more homes/apartments damaged by humans in the last 20 years than by pets. It is absolutely ridiculous. There exists a great many contradictions in this great country of ours…what is good for us as human beings–such as things preventative is not primarily what is promoted much less encouraged…instead there exist consequences, punishments, and worse, for after-the fact. Common sense we have not…or we do not practice it. Caring for ourselves and each other is too often much talked about, yet too often not much (if anything) done about. Until WE change, we will continue to face unfair pet rent, high OVERALL rent in a home buyer’s market where very few can afford to buy a home, due to the overwhelming hoops one must jump through to be approved for a loan (much less be approved for a rental agreement) etc. etc. etc.

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  216. August 09, 2009 at 12:36 am, Guest said:

    My question is:

    A prospective landlord has allowed cats for some tenants, but does not want more cats due to fleas. If we prove to him we are consistent with flea medication should we insist we should be allowed to have a cat? Should we prove we are good tenants first before getting one? I do not understand why he would not allow another cat if there are already cats in the building, especially if we are willing to pay a pet deposit.

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  217. August 11, 2009 at 10:55 am, Bothered said:

    Listen, I understand everyone.

    Have you ever walked into a home OR an apartment where people have had animals (and haven’t taken very good care of them?) The place is SMELLY and DISGUSTING! EW!

    I also know a lot of people (including myself) who own a single dog that does NO destruction. My mom has lived in her home for 4 years with her dog. When I go to visit, I can still smell the paint as if it’s a brand-new house. She is VERY clean, and so is her dog.

    My theory is this: If a renter causes damage, they should pay for it. If they don’t, they shouldn’t. I know that pet owners don’t have “RIGHTS or ENTITLEMENT” but what if we had rights as citizens who are paying rent? Shouldn’t we be allowed to do what we want and have what we want in our HOMES that we are PAYING FOR?

    I think the rule should change. If a tenant leaves and the place is ruined, they simply shouldn’t get their deposit back… whether it’s caused by an animal or a human. What’s the difference?

    BTW, my neighbor smokes all day. I breathe her second-hand smoke and while it’s against the lease agreement to do so, the management won’t address the problem. And I’m paying pet rent? You’ve gotta be s****** me!

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  218. May 22, 2010 at 1:12 am, Dangerbay said:

    Wow – I was looking for help, and mostly all I’ve found is people who have a whole hell of a lot more money than me complaining that I shouldn’t have a right to a pet because I’m poor. Well buck up and deal middle class cuz if you live poor you need a friend – and sometimes that just happens to come with fur and a lease break.

    I grew up with pets. I have a very keen affinity for them. I’ve recently become both physically and emotionally unable to work. I am on disability for my illness but honestly, it’s not enough to live on. I worked very, very hard before becoming ill and while working on a strict budget is nothing new, it’s gotten far worse the last year. In two years I’ve moved 3 times. That’s not cheap. So far each time we’ve moved it’s been to a better, although same cost, place. We’ve also moved because of simple circumstance – an over bearing landlord (who’s suite window looked right into ours), a place wriggled with loud neighbours and pests, a shared rented condo with a roommate who went nuts and now the new place, which is too new to have a guess about yet.

    Now that you have a small snippet of my life’s story you can imagine how angry I feel when people tell me just to pay more. With what money may I ask? Who’s going to bring me that money? My doctor looks at me and I think I’ll fall over dead. So it’s not me. I got my pets when I was well and could afford them. Now in hard times you want me to get rid of them and sink into a worse and more lonely depression from my circumstances? Oh, you didn’t really mean it like THAT… huh.

    Each of the places I’ve lived in has had a strict no pets policy. In each I’ve had pets and be damned. Why? When I could afford it it just wasn’t available. Now that I can’t – guess what, it still isn’t available! In this whole city there were two places that took pets and they both wanted over $100 more a month than what I’m paying here, for a whole load less in terms of living accommodations.

    So ya. Hell, I’ll take the risk. Next time you want to decide for people how to live their lives try living with a lot less yourself for a year or two and see how the hell you feel then.

    Also… does anybody actually have any tips for avoiding discovery of pets in apts?

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  219. June 13, 2010 at 11:54 pm, buddy said:

    dawg man im getting ready to move in a house that im renting that has a no pet policy and i have a freakn 3lb yorkie and i love this house and this dog SO im taking the risk of sneaking my dog in

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  220. June 29, 2010 at 9:24 pm, spot said:

    nothing but drama. I can’t wait til my husband and I end up building our own house after he retires from the military. Dealing with civilians and their dumb apartment rules is not practical at all.
    So whatever- just shake it off and move on. They’ll be the ones hurting when they start losing tenants. HA…HA

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  221. December 27, 2010 at 1:06 am, Tamara said:

    I have a “companion animal” and in my state it is against the law to deny you housing just because you have an animal. I live in a No-Pet Community and they said that since I showed medical documentation that i can keep my dog. The laws vary from State to State so I would ask. This is a response to the one with the MSD.

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  222. January 04, 2011 at 5:45 am, Marla said:

    OK! i have read all these comments and MY question is…. have any of you PAYED the NONREFUNDABLE pet deposit AND the pet rent and STILL had to pay for the damages? i did all that and still had to pay over 800$ for the carpet….. is that even legal??? i have been burned which is why i dont pay a deposit or pet rent at my new apartment for my 4 pound dog because y am i paying it if i just have to replace the carpet anyway??? i understand that i may be fined extra for ‘hiding’ her in the end but being on a military paycheck, its hard to just have extra money lying around and it is irresponsible for us to buy a house that we make the rules at when we may not be able to sell it if we have to move on short notice, like the military likes to do. i will live on the street and be in debt for the rest of my life before i get rid of my baby and too bad if some of you dont like that, you have your own lives so theres no use in worrying about mine and my priorities but anyway, just wondering if anyone has had to pay on top of the rent and ‘deposit’ fees and is that even legal for the complex to do?

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  223. January 15, 2011 at 1:35 am, Guest said:

    I just signed a lease for an apartment in RI which has 5 other tenants. It’s a house turned into apartments. When I looked at the apartment it said “Pets Negotiable”. But when I got approved and went to sign the lease I asked the realtor what the landlords said about my small dog, and she said they really didn’t like it. I explained that it was a family dog (meaning I wouldn’t have it here all the time just on the weekends when I’m not working, and the rest of the time I would have it at my parents). She pretty much told me that they live far away and are never even there and that if it’s a quiet dog that it shouldn’t be a problem, just not to mention it to anyone. All the tenants there are in their early twenties and are really cool. So I’m wondering if I should bring it up with the landlords myself and offer a pet deposit or additional charges. Any thoughts?

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  224. May 20, 2011 at 1:12 am, Evan said:

    FOR CAT OWNERS: Before you sign a lease on a no pet apartment, have a quick chat with your super. See if you can tip him a couple hundred to stay hush hush. An adult indoor cat that doesn’t make noise is unlikely to be a problem and money talks. Just make sure you have an apartment that doesn’t face the street so your neighbors don’t catch sight of a cat on their way home.

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  225. June 05, 2011 at 12:28 pm, Management is a bi!ch said:

    I snuck my pom into my apt. For about 6 months without letting them know but one day my punk a$$ neighbor had to open her bi1ch mouth and snitch so management gave me 3 days to pay the deposit or leave, I ended up paying 400 and 15 pet rent but I just got 2 more poms now and im only allowed to keep 2, who cares? My lease is up in 2 months im ready to ditch this place. Im not expecting my deposit back so im gonna trash this place before I leave

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  226. August 19, 2011 at 3:54 pm, Marissy Boo said:

    Ha! Whatever. I’ve been sneaking my cat into apartments for 4 (almost 5 years now). My cousin does the same thing. My kitty is a very quite and well-behaved cat. He never get’s into trouble. He’s also a strictly indoor cat, so I don’t have to worry about him going outside. No one has ever suspected a thing. And I’ll keep sneaking him into apartments. :o) :D

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  227. August 19, 2011 at 4:00 pm, Marissy Boo said:

    Oh, and if you’re worried about you’re pet damaging the apartment (when sneaking a pet in), there are nail caps that you can put on your dog or cats nails. I don’t really use them, because like I said, my cat is very well-behaved and isn’t destructive.

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  228. September 03, 2011 at 5:21 am, Anonymous said:

    I suspect one could keep a cat in a no pets apartment pretty easily. Even in case of an “inspection” you could simply put them in the closet and they’ll go to sleep.

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  229. September 06, 2011 at 12:23 am, SamiBlack said:

    So, I rescued an abandoned 4 week old kitten about 5 months ago. She is like my kid now. The old place we lived was a horrible neighborhood (vandalism, break-ins, drugs, etc). I had been searching for months before I found a good place near my work and school that I could actually afford- but of course there is a no pet policy. I thought I could hide her since she is quiet and very well-trained. Last week, when I was at work, I got a call from management saying that the maintenance was IN my apartment because there was an “emergency leak” that was going downstairs. The next morning, I had a letter on my door saying that I was in violation of my lease because I had a cat. They think I am pet-sitting for now. I cannot have her forever unless I find a doctor that will say that I need her for “depression” or “anxiety” (California Law?). Does anyone know if I got a note from a doctor, not necessarily my general M.D. or a therapist, if it would work? How far do they research into it? And do you need to prove you are “depressed” by providing medication or something? If I wanted to try and negotiate, should I go to the on-site apartment management, or the actual property owners/management? I really can’t give her away or put her in the pound; I have been more than upset ever since I found out.

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  230. October 17, 2011 at 2:06 pm, Anonymous said:

    @SamiBlack it’s been over a month but I figured I’d give you a heads up. You need to either be disabled or have a trained emotional therapy animal to circumvent that rule, and even then they still have the right to ask you to move since you did not notify them before moving the animal in. Your best bet is to find an apartment complex that allows animals. In the interim, you can have a friend or family member babysit your cat while you search for a new apartment. If you have to pick between being homeless yourself or not having the animal…well, that is a decision you have to make for yourself.

    My husband and I had too many dogs when we moved into the home we are renting from a private owner. As much as we loved our animals, we had to find a place for our fourth dog to stay while we live at this house. There is much discrimination against pet owners, and sometimes you have to make a tough decision. We live in Southern California and our city only permits three dogs per home, so having the fourth was illegal anyway. When we move out of here, we are purchasing our own home and will wind up getting a kennel license so we are within the law and permitted to have our animals.

    If your pet is worth it, you will not only do the right thing for yourself but for the animal.

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  231. December 02, 2011 at 10:17 pm, Jessica said:

    What if it’s a situation like i get a puppy and the apartments where i live at other people have dogs or cats, even the manager has a dog but a month later they tell me i have to give away my puppy. i think its not fair to me because i feel like the managers are just desciminating me and my family for being mexican. they send us a couple of letters reminding us that we have to give away our dog or move out. i heard that i can actually sue the manager or the owners…..so im going to fight bacause thats not right for them to tell me to give away my puppy when everybody else has a pet, there stupid!

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  232. January 25, 2012 at 11:34 pm, birdlynn said:

    Oh, my goodness. Three years ago, I walked into a situation where the neighbors abandoned all their cats. I rescued many of them, and took care of two litters all while living in a one bedroom apartment. I had to sneak them in and keep it secret for 3 years. Loved them totally. I could not find adopters and I had 4 which were non adoptive as they were semi feral. A labor of love, and stress from having to protect them by keeping them secret. Did I want to bring them to the shelter and get put down? God forbid! I could not, and therefore saving their lives were worth keeping them a secret in the only affordable one bedroom apartment I could afford with my very limited income. Now, I am moving into a studio apartment, and am finally having a few connections to take some…..but it is the most difficult thing to do in my life right now. Because low income persons can’t afford house rent where we can help animals ..instead of killing them at shelters, some of us end up sacraficing a lot by having to sneak animals in for their sake.

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  233. January 29, 2012 at 11:32 am, Anonymous said:

    All I have to say is dogs shouldn’t be an issue cats though ate filthy nastey disgusting creatures that ruin houses and make them stink even of you change the cat litter every time they go they will still stink I say just kill all the cats and do the world a favor they serve no perpouse in this world. If you have a cat for a rodent problem buy a trap save your self from the stench,see no use for cats except target practice for your gun or left front tire

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  234. February 21, 2012 at 10:44 am, non your buisness said:

    grrrrrrrrr many ppl agree with me all i need is disagreements

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  235. March 21, 2012 at 2:44 pm, Scott said:

    If you want a pet, BUY your own house or apt. Dont try to tell an owner that they must pay to replace carpet, base boards, doors vinyl flooring, drywall …. because your precious dog had “an Accident” get real. If you only knew how much damages really cost an owner you would have the same policy.

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  236. March 26, 2012 at 11:27 am, Nala said:

    Hi i have been renting for 25 yrs., and my son has his own appartment, he visits on the weekends and brings his dog with him the following week i received a letter from the landord e stating rent will got up $50.00 and $700.00 deposit for your son’s dog. it turns out i have been paying him more rent than i am suppoed to. Last yr., ’11 and this yr., ’12 totals up to $600.00 is this the reason why the $700.00 deposit. Please advice.

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  237. March 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm, Anne said:

    You’ll never be able to keep a pet hidden from your landlord. I guarantee there’s an apartment out there that will suit your needs and is pet friendly. It might take longer to find, but so what? Put the work in. I did! It took me a few months, but I found a great apartment that lets me keep my cat.

    For those of you who gave up your pets when the landlord found out- I find you despicable. Would you give away your kids? Pets, like children, depend on you for necessities, and you’re willing to throw them out and make them suffer emotionally and physically just so you can stay in your apartment?

    People should have to take character tests before buying a pet.

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  238. April 05, 2012 at 9:58 am, girl said:

    Okay, so my roommate decided to bring a pet halfway through our lease without discussing it with the other roommates first. She literally just pulled it out of her jacket and said, “I hope this is okay.” My initial thought was, “No, this isnt okay….” because we live in a complex that has a strict no pet policy. But I didnt speak up because this particular roommate and I havent always gotten along. It’s been a few months now living with this cat and she is ridiculous. My roommate doesnt want to spend the money to get her declawed and the cat has been clawing at my things. The roommate is rarely here so it has turned into a situation where the other roommates and I interact with the kitten the most. I’m nervous at this point because I doubt i’ll get my portion of the deposit back because you can obviously tell there has been a cat here (cat litter everywhere, and it smells like shit). Am I pretty much SOL at this point because I didnt say anything in the first place?

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  239. April 06, 2012 at 3:49 am, Anonymous said:

    The person who wrote this:

    “You’ll never be able to keep a pet hidden from your landlord. I guarantee there’s an apartment out there that will suit your needs and is pet friendly. It might take longer to find, but so what? Put the work in. I did! It took me a few months, but I found a great apartment that lets me keep my cat.

    For those of you who gave up your pets when the landlord found out- I find you despicable. Would you give away your kids? Pets, like children, depend on you for necessities, and you’re willing to throw them out and make them suffer emotionally and physically just so you can stay in your apartment?

    People should have to take character tests before buying a pet.”

    Did you really just compare a human child to a pet? You clearly don’t have children.
    The fact that we call them pets kind of implies that they are your possession. And while they are living things, and they do deserve to get treated fairly it makes no sense that you would, or even could compare them to a child.

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  240. April 28, 2012 at 11:46 am, Lets said:

    I have a dog I have had him since he was one month old he is now eight years old.
    I had to move out of my dream apt the place was foreclosed .I found a place the land lord never told me he did not allowed dogs he even came to my house for me to sign some papers .On the day he came to my house for me to sign the lease he told me no dogs as I was signing the lease .I freaked I lied and said I had no dog what the freak he did not tell I do not have the time to find a different place I have to be out of my old place in two weeks I signed the lease for the new place .I will not get rid of my dog he keeps me going I suffer from deep depression And if not for him I would not get up in the morning to go to work .I will try to hide him for how long I do not know.He does allow cats I also have two cats .

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  241. May 25, 2012 at 6:16 am, Luana said:

    My problem isn’t with an apartment ‘its a 4 bedroom house with 3 ba and the landlord gave us permission to have a dog and a cat but however I was wanting a dog and those pets where my boyfriends kids not mine. So I asked if I could get a dog and was denied! Well that isn’t fair I Pay half of everything here, being told no ? So I took in a Dutch Shepard age 2 months and I have had him for only 3 months and the landlord is saying if I don’t get rid of him by this week he is calling he animal shelter and having him removed , the landlord is saying he’s mixed with Pit bull and that his reason! Even if I got an DNA test it won’t help. His type of breed is new to the United states that means there’s no pedigree on him. Butmy question is can your landlord have your dog removed?

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  242. June 13, 2012 at 11:29 am, Upset said:

    Wow there are lots of rude people on the internet. I just think its not fair to have to pay pet rent. I understand a deposit, but pet rent is greedy. Tenant should sign to pay for damage instead. But the world is greedy and I’m afraid it won’t get better..

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  243. June 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm, Marissa said:

    We are moving into an apartment until we are able to find a house in the new city. But we have a dog who is 52 lbs, and the max is 30 lbs. Would we be able to convince the landlord/owner by maybe paying extra for the pounds? There is no where else to put the dog and kenneling him up for maybe months hardly seems fair.

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  244. July 07, 2012 at 3:14 am, Pons said:

    I have a prescription from a doctor that says I can have a dog. It is illegal for landords to charge pet rent, deposits or to use size or breed restrictions. This had exactly zero effect. Landlords still told me they would not rent to us and they often demanded deposits or pet rent anyway. Now I sign the lease before I even tell them I have a dog. They find out when I move in.

    To be fair, she sheds and though she is very friendly and obedience trained, there is always a certain risk that she could hurt someone, or get hurt herself. So I carry an insurance policy on her that will cover any damage she does and incidentally, also covers her in case of medical problems. This protects the property owner, otherwise they could be held liable for damages they had no control over.

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  245. July 07, 2012 at 3:54 am, Pons said:

    I pay just under $30 per month for an insurance policy that includes medical care in case of accident and some basic preventative care costs. Landlords charging any more than that per month are just being greedy, and you are better off paying that money into an insurance policy. If you suffer from anxiety or depression, it is easy to get a prescription for a pet from your doctor.

    I have also worked doing turnover for an animal friendly apartment complex. During my two years at that job I saw far more damage caused by kids than by pets. Of the pet damage I saw, cats did more damage than dogs. Dogs who did the most damage were generally older dogs who had limited control over bowel function and dogs whos owners neglected thier need for regular exersise. The size of the animal is irelivant. I have seen a Chihuahua chew through a wooden door.

    Statisticly, small dogs are also more likely to bite people. Chihuahuas, hold the record for most bites nationaly. Pitt bulls can be good dogs and are less likely to bite than a small dog, however when and if they do bite a person, death can result. If the human survives they will likely be badly injured and will require extensive medical care.

    Landlords would do well to forget about the no pet policies, they are a pain to enforce and as many of the posts here show, they are often unenforceable. Even if you get a deposit, pets that do damage often do more damage than the deposit will cover. Owners of pets that do no damage, should not be penalized in this way. Simply require liabilty insurance on any pet in residence, (some landlords are now requiring insurance for any tenant) side stepping the whole problem.

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  246. August 07, 2012 at 3:20 pm, priscilla said:

    I use to live at some apartments where they did not allow pets. everything was good for a while i felt like i’d get away with it. Just my luck though i got lazy and stopped picking up my dogs feces and my neighbors told the people in the front. It makes me so angry that people are so quick to tell on you when they cant simply come and tell you to your face. Its ridicoulous. I was very happy to get out of there and move out,, and im on a budget so my next apartment i did the same thing i didnt tell them we had a dog. not even a month later im getting notices of fee’s for breaking the rules and having a pet. I called them and they told me i wasnt picking up the dogs poo. angry with my self i took my dog out less and tried picking up her poo more often. but it happened again! i have barely been here a month and its worse these people tattle tale like no other. why cant i ever live around decent people.. maybe i should just pick up the poo more often but sometimes i get lazy.. my fault of course but i still wish people would have the balls to knock at my door and tell me there problem.

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  247. August 21, 2012 at 3:26 pm, you people suck said:

    How,can you —— compare someone with a cat,to a terrorist,etc.,for all you know one of these people could be you’r childs school teacher,how did you even get to this sight just to talk trash about people you know nothing about,all of you type of commentors are the real —— and people society could live without,you are the ones who need to “get a life” as someone so boldly said behind the safety of the internet,I hope you chole at your next meal,and you are filled in a, room of pet owners that offer you know help.

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  248. September 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm, Sarah said:

    I have a slightly different problem. We have found a stray cat that once lived in someone’s home but then they dumped him off outside. He’s a very sweet, well behaved cat with some health problems and I can’t bear to leave him to fend for himself. I’ve been letting him inside for a few hours a day to feed him and apply flea medication. He never scratches or bothers anything in the apartment. I’m thinking about taking him to the vet and keeping him inside, but I also don’t want to break the no cats rule. I may try talking to my landlord to see if I can persuade him to let the cat stay if we pay a deposit.

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  249. November 06, 2012 at 1:24 pm, Marie said:

    OK , so my friend needs her pit bull dog watched for a month so she can find a place where he is accepted or he has to go to the pound, I agreed to watch him for a month and im putting myself and family in a situation.That breed is restricted in my apts. but mind you I am only taking care of him for a month my apts say even so they are not allowed even though i see many other ppl walking there’s, what will happen if i get caught with him will i get evicted?Please help!

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  250. November 18, 2012 at 1:35 pm, Denise said:

    Please help. I live in Winter Park, Florida. I drove 8 1/2 hours to NC to pickup my Shiba Inu and then 8 1/2 hours back. I called the landlord to find out how much is the pet deposit, only to find out that they have a no pet policy. I have lived here for 8 years now and seen pets in the apt complex which is what prompted my desire to get a pet. She gave me a 7 day to cure notice but, I don’t want to give or sell my puppy. My sons and I got really attached to her and she suffered enough with the 16 hour car ride. She is only 10 weeks old and I refuse to subject her to additional suffering. What should I do. And to make matters worse, I had just renewed my lease in October. And get this, she had asked me if I had any pets when I signed the lease. Why even ask if there was a policy against it. I don’t know what to do as I do not have enough money to put a security deposit for another home and pay for the termination of my lease. Any suggestions? I have already begged and begged for an exception to this rule.

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  251. November 27, 2012 at 5:46 pm, Anonymous said:

    I would gladly pay more if the apartment complex would not accept those tenants that have pets. Although it is a courtesy to accept pets, I find that the owners do not comply with the pet guidelines. Dog poop is a sign that the owners do not adhere to the dog walking policies to clean up after their dog, even when the management provides the items needed outdoors to do so. The dogs will pee inside on the carpets and bark at all hours of the night and early morning. It’s not so much the animals as it is the owners that claim that their dogs are family members. If this is so, then why don’t they train them not to bark all the time and not to relieve themselves when it’s not appropriate to do so. I had a dog charge at me outside when the owner was in the lobby smoking a cigarette during the winter months. If you love your animals so much, live in a house with a large yard for them to sh$t and piss in, that way if it’s not cleaned up it’s your problem and not someone else’s.

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  252. February 09, 2013 at 8:55 pm, Hate my neighbors said:

    No pets means no pets. I pay my rent and follow the rules just like any tennant. My neighbor does this. I’ll call the landlord, the propety owner and animal control until that dog is gone and in someone’s pound. Put the damn thing to sleep for all I care. If you can’t afford to pay extra rent for a pet, them you can afford the pet and deserve to have it taken away or get evicted. Rules are rules. Folks like y’all that sneak animals and break rules without givimg a darn in are the problem with this world.

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  253. April 02, 2013 at 12:08 pm, Kathy said:

    I would rather die. I do not have the option to move somewhere else. Money limited.I am a widow living with my daughter. I have only one out of 3 listed on the apartment agreement. Can’t afford the extra amount,and a limit of 2 also. I would rather be homeless,or die without all 3.. Anyways,no one to take them. My other 2 kids are selfish,and wouldn’t be able to watch tme anywyas. Don’t really have friends to take and hide them with the imopending inspection here in one day. The place is too small to hide them also. They are old and also whine alot too. Again,I would rather die. I told my daughter that I heard they do monthly (nosy) inspections.. I read about on someones Yelp Review.She wouldn’t believe it. Now we are stuck here,and can;t afford to move either. My daughte hoards junk items,and is stressful movng,ad I have had 2 car accident injuries,and can’t do another move. I am in such despair… Scared..

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  254. April 02, 2013 at 12:11 pm, Kathy said:

    Just a note this is about Cats ..

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  255. April 04, 2013 at 7:47 am, Kathy said:

    Just a note when I got my cats. I was married,we had money,then husband died at 44.I have had these cats for 18 years. So any comments you shouldn’t get pets if you can’t afford to take care of them. Well at the time I did.My husband’s dead.Have fallen on harder times with accidents that have cause some disability losing one hand and another injury with my leg. My kids cannot in their lifestyle take care of the cats,and I know no one.. 18 years I’ve had them. They are my babes.And I feel sorry for people that do not like animals or have no connection with any animal.Very sad.

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  256. August 15, 2013 at 5:17 pm, shaw said:

    all you people who are so cruel about animals are disgusting and have no heart. this is whats wrong with humanity today. “Hate my neighbors Says:
    February 9th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
    No pets means no pets. I pay my rent and follow the rules just like any tennant. My neighbor does this. I’ll call the landlord, the propety owner and animal control until that dog is gone and in someone’s pound. Put the damn thing to sleep for all I care. “

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  257. March 05, 2014 at 2:11 am, Penny said:

    I live in a small college town in the middle of nowhere as a single student and there is quite literally only a handful of pet friendly apartments available. I used to think along the lines of a lot of people here that you should just find a place that allows pets. I have 2 rats and a cat and due to a sudden health issue I’m no longer able to afford to live in the pet-friendly apartment I’ve been in. The other pet friendly places that are less than 45 min from the campus range from $800 (the lowest) to well over $1000 a month. This is not including a pet fee, utilities (all of them- not even trash is covered out here), and extra a month for a pet. My pets are all very old so I have a case where it’s either put them down or hide them and I will always choose to hide them over just straight up killing them.

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  258. April 01, 2014 at 3:36 pm, kitty said:

    A former landlord here. I was recently rented out my father’s co-op and before it my own condo. With co-op I was fine with any pets. I did insist on them being neutered (spraying tom or queen in heat could do wonder to properties), but this was it. With condo I put no pets – this was before I had a cat of my own, and right after a friend of mine had a horrific experience with irresponsible pet owner who moved out in the middle of the lease period but not before leaving her 3 cats alone in the house in the care of her teenage sons for a few weeks. The boys had better things to do than clean the litter box, the cats thought the carpeting was better than a dirty litter box… . The place smelled so badly, he couldn’t bear spend more than a minute there, and he had a cat himself.

    I’ll tell you a secret. When I was still renting a condo with “no pets” in rules, someone came in and I liked the person, and if this person had pets and talked with me: showed references from two previous places of residence or one if he/she lived there long enough or maybe better offered to see (and smell) his or her current place, I’d had agreed to allow pets. An offer of extra deposit in case of a damage would’ve helped too. A friend of mine had “no pets”, but when a family came in to talk with her with a dog, she couldn’t resist.

    So here are my suggestions to people with pets who cannot find a place:
    1. Look for individual owners rather than a company – a private owner is much more flexible.

    2. Talk to the owner in person. Ask to see the place before you mention pets. Check the place – if the place doesn’t have expensive spotless carpet then it may be more difficult but expensive new carpets are unlikely in rentals, if the carpeting is not new, then it may be easier.

    3. Make a good impression to the owner, then say that you like the place a lot, and ask the reason for “no pets” role. If the owner lives there and is allergic, you are out of luck. If it’s a co-op or a condo, and these are the by-laws, you are out of luck. In all other cases you have a chance.

    4. Explain to the owner that not every pet owner is irresponsible. Tell that your current place is clean, that you cannot stand the smell of pee yourself, that your cats use the litter box perfectly, show references (if you have more than one prior residences, it’d be better since the last owner is sometimes ready to sign anything just to get rid of the tenant), offer to show you current residence, etc. Tell that you love your pet, that it’s a member of your family, that it’s very difficult to find a place, but also say that you understand that many people are irresponsible and that pets can damage a place, but that you are responsible. Say you are willing to pay for any damages that your cat causes.

    5. If the owner isn’t convinced offer extra things: extra deposit, extra rent, steam cleaning carpets before you move out, painting, etc. If the owner was promising to repaint the place before you move in or clean the carpet, tell that with you it’d be unnecessary. It may work. Good tenants are also difficult to find, and many owners just wrote “no pets” because it was already in a lease form they bought or because they heard horror stories.

    6. Keep in mind that many private owners buy a standard lease form in Staples, the form has “no pets”, sometimes the owner just doesn’t bother removing it. Make sure it’s removed before you sign the lease.

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