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		<title>By: Celeste MCcain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste MCcain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much is rent for A two bedroom?How much is move in fees?</description>
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was very helpful! My family and I (husband 3 kids) are looking to move because our rent is increasing and we are barely getting by where we are being that the bills are so high...the place we are trying to relocate to would be the same price as our increase however, we know the area and crime rate and we are trying to see how we can negotiate a lower rent its asking 700 but we want to pay about 600-650. Do u think its possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was very helpful! My family and I (husband 3 kids) are looking to move because our rent is increasing and we are barely getting by where we are being that the bills are so high&#8230;the place we are trying to relocate to would be the same price as our increase however, we know the area and crime rate and we are trying to see how we can negotiate a lower rent its asking 700 but we want to pay about 600-650. Do u think its possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has given me lots of helpful hints as I get ready to talk to my landlord about decreasing rent for my second year in my current condo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has given me lots of helpful hints as I get ready to talk to my landlord about decreasing rent for my second year in my current condo.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Sep 13, 2007:  Landlords want to be certain that the tenant(s) will take care of their apartment, get along well with other neighbors, cause no problems, and most importantly, pay the rent on or before it's due.  To make a good impression, you can provide the landlord with copies of canceled checks for a previous lease, 3-4 recent paystubs, most recent credit report, a few references from previous landlords/neighbors/employer, and assure the landlord that you're there to stay for a rather longer period.

A successfull experience:  At that time, we'd been staying at our apartment for almost 3 years.  The new lease agreement indicated a rent raise of $36 (1yr) or $69 (2yr).  In response, I wrote a letter to the management company emphasizing that we had been in the apartment for 3 years, always paid the rent before it's due, and had a complaint from any neighbors.  I proposed no rent increase for 2 additional years.  The landlord agreed to extend the lease for another year with no increase.  To show our appreciation, I followed up with a thank you letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Sep 13, 2007:  Landlords want to be certain that the tenant(s) will take care of their apartment, get along well with other neighbors, cause no problems, and most importantly, pay the rent on or before it&#8217;s due.  To make a good impression, you can provide the landlord with copies of canceled checks for a previous lease, 3-4 recent paystubs, most recent credit report, a few references from previous landlords/neighbors/employer, and assure the landlord that you&#8217;re there to stay for a rather longer period.</p>
<p>A successfull experience:  At that time, we&#8217;d been staying at our apartment for almost 3 years.  The new lease agreement indicated a rent raise of $36 (1yr) or $69 (2yr).  In response, I wrote a letter to the management company emphasizing that we had been in the apartment for 3 years, always paid the rent before it&#8217;s due, and had a complaint from any neighbors.  I proposed no rent increase for 2 additional years.  The landlord agreed to extend the lease for another year with no increase.  To show our appreciation, I followed up with a thank you letter.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came home recentley to find a notice in my mailbox stating that my rent was going up from $1160 a month to $1230 a month(a 6% increase).I took the advice of this website and typed a very nice letter explaining that due to the economy as well as falling rental rates in area that I couldnt afford the increase and may have to look elsewhere. I gave specific examples of apt in my area that were cheaper and offering special deals. My landlord responded with a new offer of $1195(only a 3% increase) and the best part is that it is a TWO YEAR LEASE, meaning that my rent will not go up next year! I want to thank this website for saving me a total of $840 over two years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came home recentley to find a notice in my mailbox stating that my rent was going up from $1160 a month to $1230 a month(a 6% increase).I took the advice of this website and typed a very nice letter explaining that due to the economy as well as falling rental rates in area that I couldnt afford the increase and may have to look elsewhere. I gave specific examples of apt in my area that were cheaper and offering special deals. My landlord responded with a new offer of $1195(only a 3% increase) and the best part is that it is a TWO YEAR LEASE, meaning that my rent will not go up next year! I want to thank this website for saving me a total of $840 over two years!</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://ohmyapt.apartmentratings.com/lowering-rent.html#comment-8754</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that has ALWAYS worked for me.  Take your renewal increase and multiply by your lease term.
($50 increase x 12 month lease = $600).

Remind your management that it will cost them at least that (possible more) to turn the unit: paint, cleaning carpet (whether you clean it or not - they still have to), cleaning apartment, upgrading anything that should be done that you just lived with, new vinyl,etc.  Also - remind them that for each day it takes them to turn and rerent the apartment they lose money (rent/days in month) and it generally takes a week to turn and rent - in a tight market!  Not to mention that they pay utilities on the vacant unit as well.

Apartment Managers LIVE by numbers, NOI and vacancy.

Also - just keep fighting and document EVERYTHING.

I've negotiated out of thousands of dollars in increases and only once had to take a $25 hike (that was originally $75).

Now, the tough one is going in and asking for a $170 renewal DECREASE.   wish me luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that has ALWAYS worked for me.  Take your renewal increase and multiply by your lease term.<br />
($50 increase x 12 month lease = $600).</p>
<p>Remind your management that it will cost them at least that (possible more) to turn the unit: paint, cleaning carpet (whether you clean it or not - they still have to), cleaning apartment, upgrading anything that should be done that you just lived with, new vinyl,etc.  Also - remind them that for each day it takes them to turn and rerent the apartment they lose money (rent/days in month) and it generally takes a week to turn and rent - in a tight market!  Not to mention that they pay utilities on the vacant unit as well.</p>
<p>Apartment Managers LIVE by numbers, NOI and vacancy.</p>
<p>Also - just keep fighting and document EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve negotiated out of thousands of dollars in increases and only once had to take a $25 hike (that was originally $75).</p>
<p>Now, the tough one is going in and asking for a $170 renewal DECREASE.   wish me luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
I am moving from a 55+ active community(NOT) after 4 months of hell,The complex name is Portifino sr homes in Henderson,NV 89012. Upon move-in we found alot of mold,the urine (musty) smell was awful.We did not detect it until the windows were closed.Speaking of windows we are still awaiting replacement windows, the ones we have do not shut and with 45-60mph winds it has been cold ,sandy and uncalled for,I am fighting stage III breast cancer and I am disabled since 1995.
We also have a 40yr old  felon that moved in with his 61yrold mother a few months ago, that has been an uncomfortable feeling.Therre is also a 56yr old women that the police have been called out to our complex regarding her abusive ways at least 17 times. She was arrested two times and released, she is a alcholic and as the police stated "she is a burden to the tax payers". She re mains on the property due to her friendship with the property manager, even after she was finally evicted.I do not want to forget she also stabbed her "husband".
So Please consider not moving to PORTIFINO sR. hOMES
IT IS A HUGE MESS!!!!
THANKYOU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello<br />
I am moving from a 55+ active community(NOT) after 4 months of hell,The complex name is Portifino sr homes in Henderson,NV 89012. Upon move-in we found alot of mold,the urine (musty) smell was awful.We did not detect it until the windows were closed.Speaking of windows we are still awaiting replacement windows, the ones we have do not shut and with 45-60mph winds it has been cold ,sandy and uncalled for,I am fighting stage III breast cancer and I am disabled since 1995.<br />
We also have a 40yr old  felon that moved in with his 61yrold mother a few months ago, that has been an uncomfortable feeling.Therre is also a 56yr old women that the police have been called out to our complex regarding her abusive ways at least 17 times. She was arrested two times and released, she is a alcholic and as the police stated &#8220;she is a burden to the tax payers&#8221;. She re mains on the property due to her friendship with the property manager, even after she was finally evicted.I do not want to forget she also stabbed her &#8220;husband&#8221;.<br />
So Please consider not moving to PORTIFINO sR. hOMES<br />
IT IS A HUGE MESS!!!!<br />
THANKYOU</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have worked in property management for years. The big companies like Equity and Archstone are unable to budge on rent prices. Due to fair housing laws and penalties, they cannot offer a discount to one person and not the next as the fines are astronomical. The times you are more likely to be able to negotiate with a company are upon renewal.  Remain friendly and calm, and if you don't get your way, don't get mad, contact corporate. Make sure upon renewal explain you want to renew, you love living there but you don't feel you should have to pay such an increase because example example example. Make sure your expamples aren't personal, like its too far from work, but if theres alot of ongoing contrsuction around you that has made getting in and out of the community quite an ordeal or excessive noise that has been documented, things like that could help. Also, upon renewal if they don't budge on price, mention the move in special of a nearby competitor and/or ask for something needed like a carpet cleaning, repaint, new appliances if needed.
Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked in property management for years. The big companies like Equity and Archstone are unable to budge on rent prices. Due to fair housing laws and penalties, they cannot offer a discount to one person and not the next as the fines are astronomical. The times you are more likely to be able to negotiate with a company are upon renewal.  Remain friendly and calm, and if you don&#8217;t get your way, don&#8217;t get mad, contact corporate. Make sure upon renewal explain you want to renew, you love living there but you don&#8217;t feel you should have to pay such an increase because example example example. Make sure your expamples aren&#8217;t personal, like its too far from work, but if theres alot of ongoing contrsuction around you that has made getting in and out of the community quite an ordeal or excessive noise that has been documented, things like that could help. Also, upon renewal if they don&#8217;t budge on price, mention the move in special of a nearby competitor and/or ask for something needed like a carpet cleaning, repaint, new appliances if needed.<br />
Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe you just read an enormous lot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe you just read an enormous lot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://ohmyapt.apartmentratings.com/lowering-rent.html#comment-8758</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not always true. For some reason I have found that turn over is a "good" thing in apartments lately. My apartment complex charges $750.00 for a current resident to transfer into another apartment (this isnt a fee for a mid lease transfer, this is for any resident at any time....) However a new person off the street can move in for a mere $200.00, and $50.00 application fee. I was so baffeled I had to ask why the enormous fee for a current proven paying resident to change apartments and the answer was: Turn charge.... Imagine that? Dont you have to pay to turn an partment for a new tenant too? Please look over your lease carefully before you sign it. You might be moving in with the devil....and it will ultimately cost you in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not always true. For some reason I have found that turn over is a &#8220;good&#8221; thing in apartments lately. My apartment complex charges $750.00 for a current resident to transfer into another apartment (this isnt a fee for a mid lease transfer, this is for any resident at any time&#8230;.) However a new person off the street can move in for a mere $200.00, and $50.00 application fee. I was so baffeled I had to ask why the enormous fee for a current proven paying resident to change apartments and the answer was: Turn charge&#8230;. Imagine that? Dont you have to pay to turn an partment for a new tenant too? Please look over your lease carefully before you sign it. You might be moving in with the devil&#8230;.and it will ultimately cost you in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a first time renter and i want to make the best impression so that I am accepted what are some good tips</description>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just returned home from trying to negotiate with my rental company (Equity) for a renewal on our lease.  I thought I'd relate the experience, although I haven't been very sucessful getting what I wanted.  The whole time I stayed very friendly and agreeable, but the leasing agents became progressively more agressive and angry.

My fiance and I have lived in our appartment for three years. Our rent has gone up $180.00 in that time.  That's an extra $2,160.00 a year. This is tough since I'm "topped out" at work, and haven't even recieved a cost of living raise.  I'm asking to renew the lease with out raising the rent this time.

We've been exceptional renters, never late even by a day.  We are quiet and professional, a sharp contrast to the tenents Equity began renting to, as soon as they took over the property.  Equity signed a deal with several schools in the area and provides short term leases to the students of a nearby golf school, the student interns for the Walt Disney Company, and others.  I figured, what with the noise, litter, trouble, and damage these new tenets were causing, I might have a bit of leverage to try to keep our rent from going up with this new lease.

From the beginning I wasn't allowed to speak with the Manager.  I was told he was very busy in meetings, so I should come back the next week.  When I returned on the day specified (after calling first to make sure the manager was there) I was again told he would be busy in meetings all day.  The guy I originaly spoke to obviously felt badly when forced to lie.  I remained pleasent, but persistant, asking when I could be certain to see tha manager.  At that point the "bad cop" leasing agent came over and offered to take care of things for the first guy.  What that meant was the Bad Cop sat me down and basically told me a bunch of lies about how much properties were going for in the area.  I had researched this on the internet,  but made the mistake of not bringing the paperwork with me. ****TIP*** Print out the prices you find on the internet and bring them with you!  The Bad Cop wouldn't meet my eyes, started a long story about the previous company that owned the property being crooked (a story that had nothing to do with what I was there to do- negotiate my lease), finally she said she would try to do me a HUGE favor by increasing my rent by only 2% instead of 5%. She wrote down some numbers on a small piece of paper which she didn't show me, but I looked at anyway.  They said, "Market $1,087" and some others.  She walked into a back office.  Since I am paying $1095 currently for my 2 bedroom, 2 bath, I figured, "Aha, I'm right at market value,"  even though she was telling me she just rented my size appartment to some one for $1200 a month.

When Bad Cop returned. She said they would allow me to renew at a 2% raise.  She went into another speech about how lucky we were to be able to negotiate since  negotiation wasn't allowed in places like New York.  I told her I'd think about it.  I went home and printed out the price qoutes for our appartement complex and others in the area, none of them were anywhere near what they were asking us to pay, The Equity website lists our appartement at $1065 a month, a sixty dollar a month difference from what they want us to pay.  I called Bad Cop back and asked very nicely (again) to set up an appointment to see the manager.  She got very angry and told me she'd have him call me, then she hung up on me without taking my number.  I called back, got the original, nice guy, and politely said I'd been cut off before I could leave my number.  He said the phones had been acting up, and took my number to give to the manager.

Not surprisingly, the manager hasn't called me back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just returned home from trying to negotiate with my rental company (Equity) for a renewal on our lease.  I thought I&#8217;d relate the experience, although I haven&#8217;t been very sucessful getting what I wanted.  The whole time I stayed very friendly and agreeable, but the leasing agents became progressively more agressive and angry.</p>
<p>My fiance and I have lived in our appartment for three years. Our rent has gone up $180.00 in that time.  That&#8217;s an extra $2,160.00 a year. This is tough since I&#8217;m &#8220;topped out&#8221; at work, and haven&#8217;t even recieved a cost of living raise.  I&#8217;m asking to renew the lease with out raising the rent this time.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been exceptional renters, never late even by a day.  We are quiet and professional, a sharp contrast to the tenents Equity began renting to, as soon as they took over the property.  Equity signed a deal with several schools in the area and provides short term leases to the students of a nearby golf school, the student interns for the Walt Disney Company, and others.  I figured, what with the noise, litter, trouble, and damage these new tenets were causing, I might have a bit of leverage to try to keep our rent from going up with this new lease.</p>
<p>From the beginning I wasn&#8217;t allowed to speak with the Manager.  I was told he was very busy in meetings, so I should come back the next week.  When I returned on the day specified (after calling first to make sure the manager was there) I was again told he would be busy in meetings all day.  The guy I originaly spoke to obviously felt badly when forced to lie.  I remained pleasent, but persistant, asking when I could be certain to see tha manager.  At that point the &#8220;bad cop&#8221; leasing agent came over and offered to take care of things for the first guy.  What that meant was the Bad Cop sat me down and basically told me a bunch of lies about how much properties were going for in the area.  I had researched this on the internet,  but made the mistake of not bringing the paperwork with me. ****TIP*** Print out the prices you find on the internet and bring them with you!  The Bad Cop wouldn&#8217;t meet my eyes, started a long story about the previous company that owned the property being crooked (a story that had nothing to do with what I was there to do- negotiate my lease), finally she said she would try to do me a HUGE favor by increasing my rent by only 2% instead of 5%. She wrote down some numbers on a small piece of paper which she didn&#8217;t show me, but I looked at anyway.  They said, &#8220;Market $1,087&#8243; and some others.  She walked into a back office.  Since I am paying $1095 currently for my 2 bedroom, 2 bath, I figured, &#8220;Aha, I&#8217;m right at market value,&#8221;  even though she was telling me she just rented my size appartment to some one for $1200 a month.</p>
<p>When Bad Cop returned. She said they would allow me to renew at a 2% raise.  She went into another speech about how lucky we were to be able to negotiate since  negotiation wasn&#8217;t allowed in places like New York.  I told her I&#8217;d think about it.  I went home and printed out the price qoutes for our appartement complex and others in the area, none of them were anywhere near what they were asking us to pay, The Equity website lists our appartement at $1065 a month, a sixty dollar a month difference from what they want us to pay.  I called Bad Cop back and asked very nicely (again) to set up an appointment to see the manager.  She got very angry and told me she&#8217;d have him call me, then she hung up on me without taking my number.  I called back, got the original, nice guy, and politely said I&#8217;d been cut off before I could leave my number.  He said the phones had been acting up, and took my number to give to the manager.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, the manager hasn&#8217;t called me back.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived at my apartment for 6 months without any problems, until I saw that the rent was going up about $50 more a month.  I went in to speak to a leasing consultant and let her know honestly that I couldn't afford the increase.  She kept my rent at the same price when I signed a new lease.  No haggles no problems...If you are a problem free resident and you pay your rent a week before it's due every month, your landlord will be more than helpful when you ask a favor of her or him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived at my apartment for 6 months without any problems, until I saw that the rent was going up about $50 more a month.  I went in to speak to a leasing consultant and let her know honestly that I couldn&#8217;t afford the increase.  She kept my rent at the same price when I signed a new lease.  No haggles no problems&#8230;If you are a problem free resident and you pay your rent a week before it&#8217;s due every month, your landlord will be more than helpful when you ask a favor of her or him.</p>
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