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Let me add another story. I live downstairs. the upstairs neighbours have 2 children under 5 years and now have added a newborn. the mother watches children on the weekends. We saw 5 children leave last nite. that is 8 children in a small 2 bedroom apartment all day on the weekends. the children do not go outside to play so all day they run inside and bounce balls and drop things and never can any of them sit down at once. Even when the children who are being babysat leave, there is still running. we had a conversation twice with our neighbors about the noise and the father said he understood and was sorry. He also said this is why is rents upstairs apts because he doesn't want to hear the noise. the wife was not as nice and said too bad she has to babysit. we have knocked on the ceiling when it gets unbearable but they respond with stomping and more noise. we have decided not to renew our lease but that is 9 months away and it seems like forever. but asurely I will not be moving to an apt with anyone above me.